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French president tells fellow European leaders the bloc is falling behind the US and China because of over-regulation and under-investment

The EU “could die” unless it makes itself more competitive with the US and China, Emmanuel Macron has warned.

The French president said the bloc was over-regulating and under-investing at the Berlin Global Dialogue event.

Washington and Beijing both outstripped the EU in economic output and investment, he said, before calling on the bloc to complete its banking union package of financial rules.

Member states also needed to press for global trade rules to be kept fair, he added, according to Bloomberg.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 112 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Call me a mad old communist stooge but I count quality of life rather than economic output as a marker of success.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 1 month ago (4 children)

True to an extent but you need economic output to give you weight in the international stage. Otherwise you start getting pushed around by other superpowers.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also you need at least a reasonable amount of economic output to have good quality of life. I'm not saying good quality of life should be defined as full-blown sigma grindset consumerism, but I don't think most people would define it as cottagecore subsistence farming, either.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You know, if you look at actual subsistence farmers, I never get a cottagecore vibe. They can and do use modern bits and pieces to make their work a little less back-breaking, as they can scavenge or occasionally buy them. A pole lathe is less aesthetic when it's powered by a cut-off bungie cord.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's less cotagecore and more post-apocalyptic.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Don't mind me; I was just going for linguistic flourish rather than exact verisimilitude.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

a reasonable amount of economic output

There's a vast difference between "reasonable " and "max_profits nothing else matters".

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Otherwise you start getting pushed around by other superpowers

This is more a coincidence of the status quo rather than a consequence of an inherent correlation between economic output and geopolitical power.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

One-world socialist government, you say?

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Current world order sucks

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, I know. Very scary to Republicans and Libertarians. The rest of us would love to live in a Star Trek world.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And also just buy things that are nice for ordinary people. In the West we don't feel it, but in a place like Africa the inability to produce anything high-tech themselves hurts.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would hurt much less, if the countries wouldn't get fucked in trade "agreements" for their agricultural products and resources.

This aspect is kind of where the whole "free market, everyone specializes, everyone wins" theory fails, as the "less developed" economies get pushed around diplomatically and militarily, rather than being allowed to participate in a fair market.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Corrupt wealth extraction from Africa is real, and significant on their end (but not ours, we do it for cents off each dollar).

A lot of African economies are managing to grow explosively anyway, though, as anyone who pays attention to the continent can tell you.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

As an Egyptian, fucking yes.