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This is honestly a badly written article. I have a problem with the final statement of the abstract this article links:
If you have a working dog breed, you need to maintain certain a level of activity or mental stimulation in order to keep that dog healthy and not bored. Many huskies are put in shelters because people cannot meet their energy demands. It’s disingenuous to disregard the breed’s physicality and how that affects their individual behaviors.
This article also states biddability was the trait linked most to breed which is an important factor in choosing a domesticated animal.
Funny you use Huskies as an example because I happen to own a super low energy husky who mostly just wants to sleep all day except on her walks.
The individual dog is always more important than breed when determining temperament.
It's ironic that you're going on about "Lot's of claims with no evidence" - despite the fact that you yourself are making lot's of claims and have yet to post an actual source to back it up.
Do you have a study you'd like to share that shows that breed is a stronger determinator for individual behavior than a dog's own personality? Or are you just saying what you "feel" is true and then accusing the people with actual sources of "peddling bullshit"?
Oh man you should publish your study with your n=1. I’m sure it will gain traction.
I mention huskies because despite your comment there a lot of huskies in shelters because people can’t meet the standard care requirements for the breed.
You wouldn’t get articles like this if all that mattered were individual traits: https://rescuedoghome.com/huskies-in-shelters/amp/
God you people are stupid lol
I can find you loads of .com articles that say that jewish space lasers are starting forest fires, what's your point? If you've got an actual study I'd be happy to read it.
I'ts funny that you're throwing a fit about anecdotal evidence when all you've done is say what you feel is correct. The other guy posted an actual study that shows that breed is a poor predictor of behavior. If we're all so stupid and you're so obviously correct, it should take all of a few seconds to find a good source to back up your point - something a bit better than "This one shelter in bum-fuck nowhere Florida says Huskies are hard".
No one is arguing that breed has no impact on the patterns of behavior you see in large populations of dogs. But that it's a much poorer predictor of behavior than people like you tend to think, and that you're much better off taking the dog as an individual.
If you tried to make my husky drive a sled all day, she'd fucking hate it. And I've met plenty other huskies that are the same way. You claimed that
I only mentioned my husky specifically because you were speaking in absolutes, so anecdotal evidence is really all that's needed to refute it. If you said something like "many dogs who come from traditionally working breeds require blah blah blah", or something similarly non-absolute, I'd have probably agreed with you.
Really, all you have to do is go to your local dog park and hang out for a while to find loads of counter-examples to breed stereotypes, and that's really all we're saying here. You can't just look at a Husky, a Golden Retriever, a Cocker Spaniel, or whatever, and assume that you can determine that dogs behavior just from knowing their breed. Period. If you've got anything more productive to add to the conversation than "God you people are stupid", I'd be happy to continue to talk about this, but if you're just gonna continue being a dick, then this'll be my last comment. Totally your call
Lol, your post history even has a comment complaining about how you were banned from "leftwing reddit subs" for trying to spread that "intro to racism" bullshit where you tried to "prove" genetics determine behavior.
It doesn't. Lots of actual science backs that up.
Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else
Lots of claims here with no evidence lol. Do you also believe the earth is flat because someone wrote an article about it once?
Looks like you just learned what quotation marks are too lmao
Bruh the bar for not getting banned from r/AgainstHateSubreddits is abysmally low
You don't even have to be leftist. Just don't be a bigot and don't be an asshole, so ... which was it?
Edit: Oh wait, I see now. You were arguing that breeding determines one's traits on a subreddit that is explicitly not a debate forum. So a mixture of both.
Nah I posted a response review of a book that someone recommended which was bad and had a lot of misinformation about Pitbulls.