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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

At this point Israel needs to go

Go where? If you have a plan, let's hear it.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Well, I have a plan and I’ll tell you what it is.

This idea of a majority Jewish state, kept so through military occupation of Arab-dense territories, needs to simply go away.

I’m a one-state solution guy. Let everyone there practice their religion in peace and access their holy sites freely, and let democracy reign.

Israel’s big sin is that they want democracy BUT only with a majority Jewish population and an official state religion etc etc etc. It’s more than a Jewish homeland - it’s an ethnostate.

That is what needs to end. It doesn’t go somewhere else. No one gets pushed into the sea. We just stop pretending like we can use arms to carve out the “democracy” we want, and Israelis and Palestinians all live in a state that guarantees their freedom and safety.

Some fear that extremists will rise and take over that pluralistic society: build a constitution that prevents this. Embrace pluralism. Marshall Plan the fuck out of Gaza until the Palestinians see they have more to lose than their misery.

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

How do you propose your plan survives the inevitable waves of suicide bombers when you remove the walls and checkpoints?

Do you force the settlers to give the land back?

How do you deal with the hardliners on both sides who would do everything in their power to foil your plan? What if those people have popular support and your plan doesn't?

Does Palestine simply cease to exist as it's incorporated into Israel? What do you do about the Palestinians who would argue you're trying to erase their culture and identity?

Who pays to rebuild Gaza?

Do we call it a day and let those accused of war crimes off the hook or do we hold them to account?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 5 days ago
[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Or apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany, West and East Germany, Yugoslavia, South Vietnam, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the USSR, etc. Countries change all the time. Normal people don't care they just keep on living their lives. They're just lines on a map. It's weird people don't understand this.

[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

People killed are just numbers so weird people don't understand this.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Once again demonstrating your inability to tell the difference between the two

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