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Foundation vs Dune (media.kbin.social)

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[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Truly ? What aspects of it ?

I mean they do have universal basic income on earth but apart from that humanity is all kinds of fucked. And it doesn't exactly get better as the story progresses.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The fact that the earth is even united and not completely screwed is already a great start. It was even recovering from climate change before Inaros.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 14 points 1 year ago

The earthers are not doing that bad in the beginning that is true. But the rest of the system have it rough.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair to Inaros he did end global warming and the overpopulation of earth.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 2 points 1 year ago

Inaros did nothing wrong.

[–] teft@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The earth is united like the United States is united. The tribes just got bigger is all. Instead of NATO vs BRICS, the Expanse universe has Earthers vs Martians vs Belters. And people are suffering hard on earth as evidenced during Bobby’s trip to the ocean.

[–] busteray@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bobby's saw a very different earth in the books tho.

People living in UBI weren't really living a paradise but they weren't homeless hobos like in the show.

[–] teft@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Example B of earth being shittastic is the entirety of The Churn novella

The story for The Churn is entirely Earth based and provides a description of what the average life in a crowded, metropolitan city is like in the world of the Expanse. The city of Baltimore has given way to a multitude of crime bosses, and organized black markets. There are multiple bosses who each keep a "family" of personal guards that operate the smuggling of goods, illegal memory implants, weapons smuggling, cybernetic implants, and other illegal goods and services. The story takes place over the course of about two days.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone starts to come together in the last book though.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

They're kind of forced to by an outside context problem, to quote Banks.

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 2 points 1 year ago

In a very... Specific way.

[–] nxfsi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chrissie's fabulous saris

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't the UBI on earth literally so poor that people on it are stuck in lives of poverty unless they can get into some kind of training scheme?

[–] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 2 points 1 year ago

Mostly they suffer from extreme boredom and mediocre lives. Nothing drastic but soul suckingly unfulfilling.