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“Jewish men have small cocks because they can’t use them after they get married,” Giuliani said, according to the transcript. “Whereas the Italian use them all their lives so they get bigger.”

Giuliani railed against how Jewish people “want to go through that freaking Passover all the time” and how they should “get over the Passover” because it was 3,000 years ago. “OK, the Red Sea parted,” the transcript reads. “Big deal. Not the first time that happened.”

Giuliani doesn’t elaborate on other instances when the Red Sea was parted.

The transcripts also feature Giuliani discussing which celebrities are Republican. Giuliani is trying to think of someone in particular and Dunphy volunteers that Matt Damon is “very liberal.”

“Matt Damon is a fag,” Giuliani replies. “Matt Damon is also 5’2″, eyes are blue. Coochi-coochie-coochie-coo.”

Various websites list Damon as around 5’10”. It’s unclear why Giuliani invoked the 1920s song “Has Anybody Seen My Girl? (Five Foot Two, Eyes of Blue)” or what it has to do with the actor.

Then there are the lewd comments directed toward Dunphy. “Come here, big tits,” Giuliani says on one occasion, according to the transcript. “Come here, big tits. Your tits belong to me. Give them to me [indiscernable]. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. I want to claim my tits. These are my tits.”

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 200 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People here calling him psycho and demented, when really he's just a run of the mill old bigot with a massive platform and an even bigger mouth.
Lets stop pretending like people need Alzheimer's or some mental illness to become more vocal about their hate, it is our society and its rapid decline back in to fascism that is allowing it, blame that.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is exactly what "locker room talk" was code for, and why Trump's voters weren't phased by it, this is the toxic culture they have and want to defend.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, unfortunately it also seeps through in to the rest of society, where it becomes the norm to make excuses for such behaviour, partly because people can't fathom other people being able to genuinely believe such hateful thigs and act on them, but they do, and it isn't "something wrong with them" it's an active and deep rooted part of our society.

All this kind of scapegoating business is just othering because it hits far too close to home to admit that bigots are everyday people like the rest of us, and that our society not only enables but encourages them.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

People are just too scared to admit they may be a piece of shit, too. Well we're all just the same pieces of shit floating around the toilet bowl.

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is much more than just hate, though. He's saying nonsensical things, making random logical jumps, and more. He can be a bigot and have dementia, they aren't mutually exclusive.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He’s saying nonsensical things, making random logical jumps

That's literally antisemitism (all bigotry, really) for you. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

And you're right, he can be both, but bringing it up is irrelevant, especially since he's got a long and public record of this kind of behaviour, and all people are doing is armchair diagnosing (and seemingly with little understanding of what bigotry even is. And a lack of logic does not dementia make). Bringing potential dementia/mental illness up doesn't only come across (and actively serve) as an excuse, but it's also ableist in that it places a stigma on to people with whatever condition is being used as a scapegoat (and any that might, in a layperson's mind, relate, however loosely), instead of focusing on what's wrong with what he's saying.

[–] keeb420@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Save me repeating myself:

And you're right, he can be both, but bringing it up is irrelevant, especially since he's got a long and public record of this kind of behaviour, and all people are doing is armchair diagnosing (and seemingly with little understanding of what bigotry even is. A lack of logic does not dementia make). Bringing potential dementia/mental illness up doesn't only come across (and actively serve) as an excuse, but it's also ableist in that it places a stigma on to people with whatever condition is being used as a scapegoat (and any that might, in a layperson's mind, relate, however loosely), instead of focusing on what's wrong with what he's saying.