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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 103 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh, is that why none of them are black?

[–] Tatters@feddit.uk 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In using Stable Diffusion for a DnD related project, I've found that it's actually weirdly hard to get it to generate people (of either sex) that aren't attractive - I wonder if it's a bias in the training materials, or a deliberate bias introduced into the models because most people want attractive people in their AI pics

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's trained on professionally taken photos. Professional photographers tend to prefer taking photos of attractive subjects.

[–] nrezcm@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah all of my professional photographers hate me.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's true, but it's not like ugly people don't get photographed - ultimately a professional photographer is going to take photos of whoever pays them to do so. That explanation accounts for part of the bias I think, but not all of it

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

If I would get pictures taken by a photographer I would not allow them to be used as training data. I don't even like looking into a mirror. Maybe that's part of why there are less ugly people pictures to train with.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I would guess that ugly people are less likely to commission photos.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

They were created via a prompt, that prompt probably included some tags to make them more attractive. It's often standard practice to put tags like "ugly" and "deformed" into the negative prompts just to keep the hands and facial features from going wonky.

There are no elderly women, no female toddlers, and so forth either. Presumably just not what whoever generated this was going for. You can get those from many AI models if you want them.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Battleship coordinates, (B10). Also (I4) looks a lot like my niece. I really think it depends on your definition of "average" though. But as @fubo indicated. There are 0% black people in this photo. There's some vaguely Asian, roughly Middle Eastern looking, sort of South American, and whatever that is going on in (M8). But there are distinctly zero black people pictured.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now I'm curious. What's average looking to you if none of these aren't?

[–] Tatters@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Older and fatter for a start.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What country do you live in btw?

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

France, and 75% of people are not fatter

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These people are (almost) all young, attractive and have flawless skin

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

6th row, 9th column, on the right side looks black to me

[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not exactly absolution