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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
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Start here! These are probably the most talked-about essays on the topic.
- The Abolition of Work by Bob Black (1985) | listen
- On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber (2013) | listen
- In Praise of Idleness by Bertrand Russell (1932) | listen
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Paying someone less money than they can afford to live on is allowing them to suffer at your business' expense.
So yes, we are talking about suffering.
And there is no such thing as a 'no-skill job.'
There are plenty of no-skill jobs. If someone off the street can be told what to do in an hour or so then the skill level is 0. If that is the level of work one does, there should be no expectation as to the level of money one deserves. Earn a skill and demand more money, society shouldn't be funding, let alone encouraging, lazy moochers.
Then why do you need to hire someone else to do it? If anyone can do it, why don't you fucking do it? Is it because you're too lazy that you don't want to do it? Is it because you don't want to make so little money doing it?
Maybe look up what the term "Opportunity Costs" means. As a high value employee, one should focus their time on - you guessed it - high value roles instead of wasting your limited time on something that can be done by just anyone off the street. But if you want to continue to not understand, then that's on you.
Sounds like you justifying your own laziness on why you can't do a "no-skill" job. If it is as easy as you claim it to be, you should be able to do it at the same time as your "high-value" work. Otherwise, it's not easy.
Congrats, you did exactly as I said you would in my last response... you continue to not understand and clearly seem to have zero Interest in ever learning.
Good thing we'll get God-Emperor Trump in there and take care of all those "lazy moochers." You left out "welfare queens," by the way.
I can't even imagine the "some people don't deserve to be paid enough to survive" mindset.
Riiiiight... asking for people to stand on their own with marketable skills is apparently a huge ask these days from some. Just come out and say you are lazy and want hand-outs.
People who work minimum wage jobs are lazy now? You're the type of person who demands to speak to the manager when your burger takes longer than 30 seconds to arrive at the drive-through window, aren't you?
People who work in fast food do not make minimum wage
Correct, they make around $1 above minimum—~$8.45 on average—which is around $2 above poverty wage…
Even $15/h isn’t enough to survive in a non-rotting apartment, unless you walk to work, don’t eat any healthy nutritious foods, and give up on any and all hobbies/interests.
$15/hr is $30k/year, and an enormous amount of people live on that. Median income in my state is 31k/year.
Not everywhere is LA.
Good jump in logic there! Your future is bright indeed!1!!
Ah, so now I'm a no-skill worker who doesn't deserve to get paid enough to survive.
Fascinating.
yes, in the future, everyone will be a software developer, and no one will stock shelves, deliver mail, or any of those "no-Skill" jobs that seem to need doing lest our economy collapse
I am entirely pro-handout, and I'm not lazy at all. I'm not even a socialist lol
Giving poor people money, straight up, is the second best thing we could do to grow our economy, in general.