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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

150% political manoeuvring before the elections. The federal government changing their policy as to whom to extend subsidiary protection to really doesn't do anything as it's state courts which have the ultimate say whether someone can be deported.

...and yes that means that in the extreme Germany has 16 different opinions on which countries are safe to deport people to.

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I find it amusing that you believe German bureaucracy to be versatile and efficient enough to be able to be steered so quickly by spontaneous political will.

No, deportations are rare because we take asylum rights as a basic human right extremely seriously and there are an unbelievable amount of reasons a deportation can be called off. Each of these deportations takes months, if not years of preparation by the interior ministry ( executive), leading to lots of legal consultations and usually legal battles in court due to appeals, intense diplomatic talks with the recipient country ( especially in this case, because Germany refuses direct diplomatic ties with the Taliban and Qatar had to play middle -man) and only then the actual forced deportation itself can be tactically planned and organized. And there's tons of very specific rules, even for how and when police may or may not pick up a deportee during the night and if/what charter flights can be used.

So definitely no spontaneous politicking. The change in policy to start enforcing existing extradition orders more rigorously started years ago when the current government got elected. It's a very slow and arduous process still.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

I find it amusing that you believe German bureaucracy to be versatile and efficient enough to be able to be steered so quickly by spontaneous political will.

I believe that it is able to receive new orders, even on short notice so that politicians can make speeches. That has nothing to do witch actual processing speed. On the contrary, in fact, they might very well have to re-open a case file they just closed and start from scratch. Sisyphus has nothing on German bureaucrats.

It also doesn't mean that they follow those new orders until a court reminds them to, not all new orders trickle down to everywhere they should.