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Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.
What is wrong with advocating for Palestinian emancipation with other protestors outside the DNC, inside the DNC, and with the Uncommitted movement outside the DNC, and then getting kicked out for it?
The statement is pretty vague, do you have a specific example of something Hasan did or said at or outside of the DNC that you take issue with?
don't bother their analysis is purely vibes based and completely uninformed. theres a huge difference between AOC stanning for kid killer kamala and Hasan literally trying to infiltrate the DNC to provide a single pro-palestinian voice on the inside, and getting kicked out for interviewing the excluded protestors and uncommmitted movement. literally just watch a single stream or video of his, he is CONSTANTLY criticizing democrats, more often than republicans. its not just some kind of '''triangulation''' thing, hasan is literally doing what a journalist is supposed to do in this situation, bringing the pro palestine anti genocide message to people who would otherwise not have heard it. idk what idiot footfaults got this opinion from because it sure as shit didn't come from actually watching hasan.
what part of infiltrating the DNC to spread pro-palestine arguments requires him hugging the pod jons and giving AOC a platform to spew her bullshit
he explicitly says all the time that he is overly nice to people on camera even when he disagrees with them so that he can hopefully deprogram their followers. its like you don't understand the concept of media or propaganda, or are being intentionally obtuse.
also, i think there's a fundamental disconnect from Hasan and his fans who see the DNC libs as annoying and misinformed but fundamentally OK people.
I, and other hardline communists, see the US as a fourth reich and the DNC as little Nazi genocidal fucks. When I see someone who is supposed to be "on my side" cozying up with them and hugging them, I don't think "wow so glad he is de-radicalizing those fascists" I think "what the fuck is this rich shithead doing? Is he a traitor to our cause like all the other people who schmooze up to the nazis have been historically"
the opposite is happening, his followers are being programmed to being more complacent and OK with podjons and DNC "progressives"
if thats the plan then someone at the DNC has clearly fucked up
have they? they've made half the people on a supposedly "leftist" forum defend statements like "he's on the fence about Kamala and waiting until she changes her mind on genocide to endorse her"
Like imagine saying something that stupid with a straight face. Never would have happened before Hasan
yep. because they had an aoc in their hands and kicked her out of their convention.
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clarify your statement it made no sense
who had aoc in their hands? who kicked AOC out of the convention?
if the plan is to get someone's followers on the DNC agenda then they shouldn't kick that someone from the DNC. this is part of the rest of the conversation you're in, where some people feel that this streamer is the same type of careerist as AOC. i think it is self evident that if that was the case, then DNC wouldn't have kicked them out.
AOC was never kicked out of the DNC.
The Pod Jons invited Hasan into their room where he continued his stream (after hugging them), he wasn't kicked out merely his press credentials were revoked. If Hasan is so dangerous to the DNC, why would the fuckin DNC mascots the podjons be jerking off with him in their private cube?
The decrepit ghouls who run the DNC don't understand how important and influential Hasan was so they kicked him out. The savvier and smarter and younger pod jons saw what a fumble the DNC was doing by ostracizing a willing sheepdog, and instead called him in. There is an understanding among young media hustlers, one might call.... a network.
thats the argument, yes
i'm just on a different wavelength than you, nothing you say makes any sense to me i can't even parse it
thats alright buddy. we are all made of waves
i take issue with him setting up interviews with AOC and hanging out with the Pod Jons and hugging them and doing networking
I don’t take issue with him because he’s constantly attacking the dems, raising money for Palestine, was a guest on the Deprogram, and straight up said in a recent stream that “the revolution won’t be voted in”.
you don't take issue with him because he's hot and your "friend"
everything else is ad hoc
What? lol
I’m not even a rabid follower of his stuff and like I said in the OP, dude’s not perfect, but he isn’t nearly as bad as people talk about.
nobody is perfect, this isn't a morality test. That's not what's being discussed.
He's fundamentally harmful to marxism, just like almost all the other streamers are, because he spreads normalizing ideas about genocidal freaks like Democrats
I didn't say that was wrong. You are deliberately twisting what I said.
What I was trying to highlight is that you can't hold that position, but then also try and be friendly with the Democratic Party enough that they give you a press pass (he claims they gave it to him by accident?!?). Like you have to acknowledge that can have a chilling effect on speech. Giving him access, there's a strong temptation to self-censor in order to not upset the Convention organizers. They eventually they kicked him out over the slightest of criticism anyway.
So in the end, what serves the cause more? Trying to be on "good behavior" so you don't get kicked out (and get kicked out anyway)? Or being on the outside and demonstrating and not self censoring?