The thing I never understood about goth is that it looks like so much effort. The makeup, cloths, hair, it all looks like a ton of work. I always thought it was about embracing how dismal and pointless life is.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 months ago

Doesn't mean you can't look cool

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's nihilism goth is more an aesthetic and lifestyle. Doesn't necessarily have to have a deeper meaning.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, I think I look at it like a template for self expression. If it helps you say what you want to say, then more power to you. What exactly that is won't be the same for each person.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just asked about whether it was aesthetic or lifestyle in another thread. Interesting discussion on the punk ethos followed.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reading that one person's arguments hurt so much. Imagine gatekeeping something like that. lmao

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My favorite part was:

buying a leather jacket and pre-torn pants would get you laughed out of a punk rock gathering where everything is thrifted and modified DIY

It's like: "Hey! did someone else tear those pants? Why haven't you modified your jacket?!? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!"

[–] KraeuterRoy@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tonight in CSI Punk:

"Analysis of the tearing pattern in these pants suggest that the owner did not rip them themselves. This tear was done by a machine...in the factory!!1eleven! Clearly the suspect is nothing but an impostor"

"We also found a reciept for these pants from a local luxury store. Seems like the owner got...ripped off"

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

THIS SPIT WAS SHOP BOUGHT!!!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

It's like a Portlandia sketch

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I always thought it was about embracing how dismal and pointless life is.

It means different things to different people. Which kind of makes sense, if you think about how music and style spreads around the world and hits different people in different cultural contexts.

Some people just listen to the music and don't get all gussied up. Some people express themselves through professional-quality costumes. Some people use the style to create an identity on social media. Some people use the music and style to explore their cultural heritage. etc.