So trains are awesome and all, but they're not second behind sailboats for fuel efficiency. Motorized ocean freighters are still more efficient than trains when measuring kilograms of cargo moved per liter of fuel consumed per kilometer travelled. Nuclear vessels would be considered more efficient than that, but they're not commercially available.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How are you going to sail an ocean freighter to Minsk?

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not. I'm not saying trains aren't important. The same question about trains could be made: how are you going to ship a box of raisin bran to my house by rail? I love trains; they're the fucking best. For land-based shipping, they are the most efficient mechanism by FAR; it's not even a close comparison. But they are absolutely trounced by commercial ocean ships.

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

how are you going to ship a box of raisin bran to my house by rail?

Tiny HSR

[–] Thief_of_Crows@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

LMAO I didn't even see the train, I thought you were saying boats and "old boats"