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Then fucking sell the property and cut your losses. Why is it that landlords are sacrosanct people that make money regardless of the bad "investment" they made?
The GDP is so tied to the real estate that we see inane shit like that.
It seems if you're wealthy enough your wealth gets to enjoy a nice racheting effect.
Won't that likely still cost the tenants their home? Any guarantee new owner will keep the old price if the interest rates are higher? Or who would want to buy it if it's a loss?
If it doesn't sell, fine. Then maybe people will stop buying up housing to have rental income. And while I understand why people do it, I in no way agree with it ... because it's only wealthier people who can afford to do it. The average person is priced out.
So let those who bought at low-now high interest rates lose their shirts, as it seems that's the only way prices will come down ... because every level of gov't hasn't done sweet fuck all to stop (or even hinder) the practice.
It'll sell at some price point. Property isn't a guaranteed growth investment and we should stop treating it like one.
Also, only a fucking idiot gets a variable rate mortgage.
Or variable rate interest should be illegal? That's kinda where I was going. People keep yelling about landlords when everything in general follows the path of least resistance. Cut the problem off as near to the source as possible.
That's not unreasonable sounding... I'm not certain if there are any second order effects but it feels like a good consumer protection change.
Variable rate let's me take on the rate risk and pay (on average) less interest. Fixed interest means the bank prices in the rate risk and you pay for that in a higher rate.
I understand what it is. I said make it illegal. It largely contributed to the housing collapse.
I don't think there was really much of a housing collapse in Canada...
Well it caused a worldwide recession.
Good rent control has rules about jacking up the rent in a property you acquired so selling it shouldn’t affect the tenants. Like the other people have said it would simply be that the landlord would have to sell for a price that makes sense.
Rich people can all find their way off bridges for all I care. This shit is vile, has no place in a functioning society, and is completely voluntary.
Tenants are already getting fucked over. People already on financial strain hit by a 25% rent increase over 2 years like it happened here will lose their apartment and the landlord gets to keep his property that "pays for itself" (see: someone else is paying their property). And that sets a precedent for other landlords.
At one point in time, the trade off for renting was a lower monthly payment than a mortgage and a maintained apartment by the landlord.
Nowadays, tenants pay for the entirety of the mortgage, and landlords complaint when they aren't cashflow positive month to month and don't maintain their property because they have the big end of the stick on a human right.
And the response from the government? "We'll look into it". Fuck that noise.
No, the new buyer has to honour the lease amount, and then subject to normal 2-4% per year adjustment.
They're allowed to give the tenants one month notice if they or their immediate family are moving in but yeah outside of that they just inherit the lease as is.
If they do that and then rent it out within 6(?) months they have to pay the tenants 12 months of rent... IF the tenants can prove it and then take the landlord to court. So not ideal eitherway.
The law just changed to 4 months notice for landlord/family use (3 months if it's for a new buyer) and the landlord/new buyer/family must live there for 12 months (actually live there, not just keep it off the rental market).
The problem occurs when house prices tumble from an influx of sales, and the 32% (In NZ) of your population that are paying their mortgage off on their primary residence are potentially plunged into negative equity on rising interest rates.
Once you’re there, you’re kind of fucked. You can sell, but you’ll still owe the bank money, so you can’t buy/downsize. You can’t even change banks. You’re a risky customer, so you get higher interest rates. All you can do is hope the market rebounds or declare bankruptcy.
So you’re risking fucking over 30% of your nation (and arguably the most productive segment of your country as they’re earning money to pay that mortgage), to appease a fraction of (as not every renter can/wants to buy. Eg, students, temporary immigrant workers etc) the 30% of renters that are being fucked over by high house prices.
Not to mention, all the renters you’ve displaced into an even more competitive rental market.
But that’s not to say the solution is to shrug your shoulders and let the landlord class continue to punch down.
It would be expensive, but you could guarantee (current) mortgages for primary residences in cases of financial hardship. Buy mortgagees out and turn the houses into state housing, renting them back to the previous owners at fair prices.