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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Man the english language makes no sense.

the sound in lose is the same sound as we are taught “oo” makes.

Couldn’t a more straightforward language be chosen as the global one ffs

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My father (who had a PhD in English) used to tell me that "ghoti" was pronounced "fish"

GH as in rouGH
O as in wOmen
TI as in raTIon

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do you pronounce women? When I put those sounds together it makes more of a fush or fosh than fish .

Or do you say fish different than me?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

"Wih-men." I think you're thinking of woman, the singular version of the word.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 1 points 3 months ago

That isn't really consistent with English orthography.

But you can write "pfysche", and that would be consistent with English.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Looks like we can thank the Dutch language for that one

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Looks like loose is from Germanic/Old Norse, "laus"

And lose is from Old English, "los"

Also looks like I can't stand to look at either of these words for a few day now.

[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

From my tiny amount of research eventually it passed through the Dutch layer and ended up as "loose" from those origin points before being adopted into english

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

doesn’t matter what the root is. Just conform the spelling to fit your language’s rules

[–] dcpDarkMatter@kbin.earth 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

English? Rules?

We don't do that here.

[–] cowfodder@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

GHOTI is pronounced as "fish".

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

Damn, I haven't seen that one in forever.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 3 months ago

Kamala must change her name to commalaa

[–] brenstar@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

Loose could really be tightened up if it could just lose one of those Os

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

There's also loose and they sound the same but mean different things.

Loose is when your pants is too wide.

Lose is when the pants were so wide that you lost them.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Lucy's loose legwear lost latitude, leisurely lowering, leaving Lucy's legs largely liberated. Lamentably, Lucy's lost leggings landed listlessly, loitering lifelessly.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Man looking a thesaurus is fun Lol

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They don't sound the same at all though.

Lose - looze

Loose - luice

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Interesting, I didn't know that. FYI, there's the phonetic transcription that saves us from using other words to describe a pronunciation.

luːz - lose

luːs - loose

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

I think they sound different, loose ends with a curt "s" sound, while lose ends with a longer "z" sound.

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Silly poem showing its age,

Made has not the sound of bade,

Made totally sounds like bade

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

Ooh, also its accent, this is not a thing couplet for me

Discount, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward,

Nor it's immediate predecessor,

Banquet is not nearly parquet,
Which exactly rhymes with khaki.

Parquet isn't in my vocabulary, but doesn't seem to rhyme with khaki in any common dialect either way.