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His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday's election.

It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

And plenty of useful idiots here are parroting him, because "US Bad"

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

The US is bad. Especially when it comes to South America. And especially with socialist countries. The US always sanctions socialism to then claim it doesn't work. Otherwise americans might start to doubt their ultra capitalism.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And plenty of useful idiots here are parroting Blinken, because “US Good.”

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

"B-b-b-but whatabout" coming from one of the most ardent defenders of the fascist shithead Maduro here? How utterly predictable.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The US defines sanctions as acts of war, like economic warfare. So the US is at war with Venezuela. How can that fact not play a role in the evaluation of the claims? It's like giving claims by Russia equal weight as claims from Ukraine about their own election.

And of course, how could you even expect free and fair elections while under siege?

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And of course, how could you even expect free and fair elections while under siege?

Well, at least we agree they weren't free nor fair. The difference is you believe US forced Maduro to falsify them because "US?" while some think he did because "Maduro".

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago

Well I believe the government had to clamp down on opposition because they actually are in league with the imperialist side of the US and want a coup and overthrow democracy in Venezuela. I don't think they falsified the results, until I see actual evidence, and not just claims of having evidence by the lying US.

It's similar to Iran: The guardian council was established to prevent coup attempts by e.g. the CIA. Election interference creates a legacy of problems. Many countries in the world can't have a free democracy because the US can bring such a huge influence to bear. The USA deserve to be hated by many people of the earth. The US experienced that kind of interference the first time in 2016.

But my point is that if your country is under siege by a hostile foreign power you have to hold fast and prevent the take over at any cost. This is where crackdowns and oppression become less black and white and the use of force and violence is an imperative.

The Venezuelan government has been remarkably calm and measured though. They didn't even arrest Juan Guaidó who clearly is a US puppet.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Media often reinforces binary thinking by presenting complex issues as battles between opposing sides, where there’s a hero and a villain, good guys and bad guys, with no room for middle ground. 

This polarized storytelling simplifies narratives but doesn’t capture the complexities of real-life issues, which are often multifaceted and nuanced.

What is binary thinking?