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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

with advanced near-perfect lie detection

how the fuck would that work mate, just give me a glimpse of your notes on how a legendarily useless and unworkable forensic technique would become "near-perfect" with GPUs.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ya know, it's funny that you point this out, it's a thing about their style of argument that's been nagging at me for a while.

There's a pattern in the promptfondlers' propaganda where they claim that they they've identified a path to improve their technology recursively and infinitely, but their strategy relies on the invention of what is essentially a "truth oracle" in the compsci sense of the word "oracle." If they had a machine that could reliably decide the truth value of an arbitrary proposition, then they could foof us all to roboheaven ASAP.

I guess that's true, since anyone could use a truth oracle to implement a binary search on The Akashic Records or whatever to discover new useful truths about life, the universe, and everything. Any new route of investigation would end in a game of 20 questions with your infinite knowledge genie.

Naturally, LLMs are never going to be a truth oracle; you just can't get there from here, but try telling them that.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If they had a machine that could reliably decide the truth value of an arbitrary proposition, then they could foof us all to roboheaven ASAP.

Damn bro, they're gonna hate this Turing fellow once they learn he crushed their dreams OVER ~~SEVEN~~ EIGHT DECADES AGO

EDIT: someone pointed out I suck at arithmetic