zeca

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[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't understand your second paragraph and how it relates to what I said.

What about what I said depends on stepping outside space and time?

Do you think I meant that an automata could copy me? thats not really what i was talking about.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

im not so sure the devs have fault in any of this though

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 days ago

saying somethins is being sabotaged isnt the same as saying it is failing. The sabotage must be successful for it to fail.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

there isnt so much incentive. No advertisement. Upvote counters behave weirdly in the fediverse (from what i can see).

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It seems weird to me that the null-hypothesis there should be that dogs are non-sapient. It seems to be common for scientists to default on non-existence until evidence of existence is found. But in some situations existence and non-existence should have equivalent weights. In the field of mathematics, the existence of a thing can be logically equivalent to the non-existence of another thing, and we dont know which of the two exists, but we cant default to assuming neither of the two. Science is a bit different from pure mathematics though, but im not sure in what ways.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 days ago

Very well said!

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

This is exactly what puzzles me. Or at least you seem to be talking about what puzzles me. The problem is that when I mention this to others, most missunderstand what I mean by "being aware" or "conscious", and im not sure its possible to refer to this phenomena in a much better way. But that is exactly the argument i usually make, that an automata could behave exactly like me, following the supposed physical laws, but without being aware, or having any sensation, without seeing the images, hearing the sounds, only processing sensorial data. Processing sensorial data isnt the same as feeling/hearing/seeing it.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

cant you read the content?

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 week ago

I feel like dogs tend to to give us the benefit of the doubt about everything, never jump to thinking we're crazy.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago

Revenue and market cap are two different things. The 2 trillion you mentioned is market cap, not revenue, much less it is profit.

I agree it would be a prettier picture if companies paid their workers fairly. But the companies would grow differently. Maybe they would grow better, but differently and more distributed. Comparing absolute values between our world and this dreamland seems silly though.

And I hope that in a world where we are paid fairly we would produce less crap, pollute less. Workers wouldnt be desperately making bad/useless products in order to just survive. A smaller gdp could be a good thing.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If they had to pay them that much, they would have never hired most of them.

exactly. A company tant doesnt overexplore its workers cannot grow like alphabet did. The underpayment of the workers is an essential feature of alphabet, and part of what makes its market capitalization that high.

This implies that the answer to my question is "no": if the workers had been paid properly from the start, there wouldnt be the discrepancy that makes the founder billionaires.

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