I hate them both

lemmy.world is slooooow

I guess alot of the stuff we already do e.g Community service, mandatory classes, bans, fines but I would add dissolution of your company if you own one or confiscation of luxury items such as yachts of private jets if you own them. Ultimately I think its a case by case thing like shoplifting for essentials should go unpunished but people making lots of money shoplifting high value items should be compelled to pay it back

god dammit

years of depression has a numbing effect 👍

I do sympathise with that argument but I would argue that loss of freedom is a powerful disincentive. For some crimes disincentive's don't work anyway. If the goal is smaller recidivism rates I reckon you'd get better results treating them well as opposed to poorly. If you don't treat them like people you can't expect them to act like people.

I don't believe in prison for punitive justice. Prions should be used to keep society safe from dangerous people, not punishing them imo.