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This is a very short story about sarcasm:

Ted opposes racist rants.

Yesterday - Ted posted a few exaggerated racist rants (sometimes with the /s).

2,177 people saw Ted’s racist rants.

• 50% of them guessed he was joking.

• 98% of them would not have seen a racist rant yesterday, if it weren’t for Ted's little gag.

So the question is:

Despite the sarcasm... isn’t Ted just spreading more of what he honestly deplores?

Is Ted subverting his own integrity?

Why not say how we actually feel?

“OP made it opt-in”

1 - It’s not opt-in "By User" though. It’s opt-in "By Community"...

So if one person turns it on, 1000’s of other people see it.

OP keeps saying “you can just toggle it off”... but I really can’t... when anyone can toggle it back on.

2 - Future options for toggling are not much better (bottom of the repo, To-Do section):

• "if a moderator adds the haiku-bot, non-mod users cannot remove it"

• “only allow moderators to subscribe/unsubscribe”

...so the toggle option wouldn’t apply to 99% of people anyway.

“a few users were waiting for this (-OP)”

Who was waiting for it? The top level replies in this thread are:

• you, who wouldn’t use it
• me, who doesn’t want it
• Otome, who doesn’t like it

I think your bot rules are pretty solid though.

Overall, I just feel like... Lemmy is a fresh space...

a chance to make a new culture...

maybe it's best to leave that old bloated carcass behind.

1 - Yes - some bots are helpful, some (most) are annoying:

• a Haiku bot falls into your "triggered by accident" category (any post that is 17 syllables).

• a Haiku bot also does not add any new contextual information (it just duplicates a comment).

That's why I'm saying the haiku bot is junk.

2 - In this very post, when Otome said "I never liked the Haiku Bot"... OP responded "I’ve never liked them much either"...

so I'm asking OP: "why create a bot to spam lemmy with low-value duplicate content, if you don't even like that bot yourself?"

I'm asking you - what value do YOU think this Haiku bot adds?

You did not answer the question... I asked you:

How is a haiku bot not invasive spam?

It's basically the same as the "all numbers in your post add up to 69" bot.

Okay - What value does a haiku bot add?

It only tells you that a post was 17 syllables...

• and then duplicates a comment (spam),
• and then stretches the duplicated comment vertically (spam).

If you agree that most bots are spam, then why are you making and promoting bots?

Here’s a human haiku:

bots are part of what
made reddit such a wasteland.
most bots are just spam.

i wish lemmy would
remain a place for humans.
why can’t we just talk?

Yeah lemmy is a chill place.

It is wild to watch the rapid expansion.

Dessa the rev,

I did a FRESH lemmy-ansible install on a new VPS.

• I only modified the host file (did not edit config).

Homepage shows the same UI and error message:

• "Found. Redirecting to /404?err=FetchError: invalid json response body at http:/lemmy:8536/api/v3/post/list?page=1&limit=20&sort=Active&type_=Local&saved_only=false reason: Unexpected token N in JSON at position 0"

Clicking “Login” or “Sign Up” gives the same error:

• client.js: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'site')

And the same docker error:

• lemmy_server:::root_span_builder:NotFound

I haven’t modified anything - it is still a fresh ansible-install.

Here are the configs/logs for this NEW lemmy instance (pretty-fied).

• DOCKER ERROR LOG

• DOCKER-COMPOSE.YML

• LEMMY CONFIG

• NGINX CONFIG (/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/ggg.com.conf)

• iptables

I haven’t changed anything (database / ports / config) beyond what ansible did.

If you have a chance to consider this, I am very grateful.

I've read all the docs and I don't know what else to try.

NOTE: The GOOD news is - I’m making a “Lemmy Install for Noobs” guide as I go (detailing every small step)....

When I finally get Lemmy running, I’ll share the guide for community review/benefit.

It was an ansible install, but you are right, I modified the config a ton (tryin to make it work).

I’ll wipe the VM, reinstall with an unedited config, and go from there. Thank you

Thank you for the reply. I updated the 3 docs to paste bin.

You’re right because if I curl localhost (while SSHed into the server), it shows the NGINX setup page.

“If you see this page, the nginx web server is successfully installed and
working. Further configuration is required.”

Could be an issue with the NGINX config (I’m not sure which port mappings to change)

For example, this section:

# frontend
location / {
# The default ports:
# lemmy_ui_port: 1235
# lemmy_port: 8536

set $proxpass "http://0.0.0.0:29201";
if ($http_accept ~ "^application/.*$") {
set $proxpass "http://0.0.0.0:17161";
}

if ($request_method = POST) {
set $proxpass "http://0.0.0.0:17161";
}

Am I meant to change those ports?

And is # lemmy_ui_port: 1235 and # lemmy_port: 8536 just listed for reference (or am I meant to add those elements)?

Thank you again.

Here are the new pastebin links:

Docker logs (2 errors)

• TL-DR (the 2 errors):
• lemmy_server:::root_span_builder:NotFound
• lemmy_server:::root_span_builder:captcha_incorrect

Lemmy config

Nginx config (/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/ggg.com.conf)

I would still create an issue if you like.