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[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would argue they're not equal. Bus makes a bad replacement for a tram and tram can't really replace the bus if there are no tracks. The reason why I was asking is because Essen and Mühlheim a.d. Ruhr plus some nearby areas have got sections where trams aren't confined to just the populated areas and do not have many stops and outside the city core they aren't Stadtbahn, but are that and much more outside the urban areas, act part of the way like the good old Strassenbahn but are marked as Stadtbahn. I guess I don't really have a point here, just rambling. But really there's big difference between what you can offer on rails (if you don't make stupid planning decisions and your system isn't falling into disrepair) and by buses. Yes, they're comparable mostly in the way that they're both moving dozens of people per unit. In everything else, how comparable are they?

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was referring to the numerous options that exist alongside the said rail option in most real world places. But yes, most of the time the bus is the worse option of them two. Less accessible, economical etc.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Which then again is too "techy" for the average person. We both are less likely to be the average person, see.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Fat-shaming is so commonplace especially in ballet and dancing in general and this is quite a common way to put it - using the allegory of "motivation" even when they refer to shape, so I would argue that this is a justified way of "reading between the lines".

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

This video is so full of American stereotypes about transit and bad examples of what is considered improvement because you're having 10k instead of 3k riders per day in a city with an urban area of more than 600k people?! I think you could have a pretty sensible network that better serves people with the money poured in the UVX. The initial cost of the BRT is higher than that of light rail but with 10k riders per day do you even need a BRT? BRT also is not direct replacement for the tram or light rail, it doesn't offer the same capacity and ride comfort. Also the queue jumps mentioned in the video are potentially lethal to cyclists.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

With good planning of infrastucture this is less of a problem. I say this as someone who's suffered minor head injury and minor TBI because of the mentioned problem. Only reason for this was I was obeying the law in a place where the only legal place to cycle was in this case the most dangerous one too, and where I had cycled numerous times before without an incident. Now it luckily has a separate path for cyclists, and soon the tram tracks are located in a place where you'd have to do mad stunts to "get into the groove" (no pun intended).

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Short answer: no.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You can charge electric buses at termini though. Albeit this doesn't change the challenges much. The electric buses are best suited for lines where the higher capacity isn't needed and where the line is not likely to be longer than a little over 15 km.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

You wouldn't even have to go for the "replacing the S-Bahn" to show how ludicrous a BRT is as a suggestion, unless you're not paying the constructors and drivers a living wage, which is why it makes sense in say Colombia and not in Germany...just think about replacing the M-lines of Berlin tramways with a BRT. It would have to be couple meters wider, would be terribly unreliable and inefficient, not to speak of noisy and bumpy. Now who would want to have that? Not to mention how much the upkeep of two lanes of dedicated BRT costs vs. maintenance of steel on steel rails and catenary. (Most of the time you'd find the latter to be cheaper.) In Helsinki, Finland we are currently waiting for a new tram/light rail option to replace a bus service that should have been a modern tram/light rail line in the first place: https://raidejokeri.info/en/ In the neighbour municipality Vantaa some parties were trying to push for a BRT option but the independent research suggested light rail/tram option to be the best and this is what was chosen: https://www.vantaa.fi/en/housing-and-environment/traffic-and-transport/vantaa-light-rail (they call it light rail but in some ways it's also reasonable to call it a tram)

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

This is a common misbelief. Trams and light rail usually have points where the units can go around if one unit has derailed, unless the unit has tipped over, which in itself is very very rare. Good planning is crucial. "A better solution uses corridors dedicated to buses that are electric powered." Nope, nope, nope. You have to present arguments to this claim, maybe then I can be bothered to counterargument such nonsense.

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I thought letbane was not bad. What issues are you referring to?

[–] paaviloinen@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you would demolish all the other options, then it would de facto do just that. But nobody has even suggested the kind of baffoonery.

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