mii

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[–] mii@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I’m probably gonna show my age by saying this, but in my opinion we already had the near-perfect federated discussion platform over 40 years ago, and that was Usenet.

On a philosophical level it’s not too different from what the Fediverse is trying to achieve. However, because it is a protocol and not a software, you aren’t bound to specific implementations. Everyone can implement the NNTP protocol because it operates on the same principle idea as email. And just as not one organization “owns” email or HTTP, no organization can own Usenet.

It’s also more of a “verse” than the Fediverse because it’s really fundamentally a different thing than the internet (as in the HTTP internet), and not a software layer on top of it. By that virtue, you don’t even have to bother with shit like tracking, advertising, or even large-scale data scraping because the protocol just doesn’t allow for it. (Doesn’t mean it couldn’t, of course. I’m sure a Google would come up with NNTP2 and enshittify it if it gained enough traction, but hey.)

In terms of moderation, on Usenet a mod is really someone who pre-reads messages and either approves them or not. You can implement the same tech that powers email junk filtering for that, and it works generally pretty well. It’s way more hands-off than anything Reddit or Lemmy or forums offer. Sure, for large enough groups this becomes a chore too, but I’d still rather work through a bunch of what basically amounts to emails than some convoluted mod interface on a website.

The only downside is that it’s not as easy to use, at least not for people who’re used to modern apps. On the other hand, everyone who’s ever written an email im Outlook or Thunderbird shouldn’t have a problem, and I’m sure someone could cook up a pretty smartphone app, too.

[–] mii@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Really? Most I’m seeing lately is obvious bot spam with content that’s not only blatantly against the rules but outright disgusting.

CW: mentions of animal abuse, violence, and racial slursyoutube comments

And that’s not even the worst ones. I’ve seen some which mention and promote CSAM. Reporting these seemingly does nothing.

[–] mii@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago

I’m really not a fan of Python (in general; the whole philosophy of that language is kinda opposite to my idea of programming) but I have to admit the project does look interesting at first glance.

And after glancing at the Lemmy codebase a few times I think that an alternative or at least competition is a good thing.

[–] mii@awful.systems 17 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Hell, I really hope it’s scraping the comments too.

With what an absolute fucking trash fire YouTube comments are at the moment and Google being suspiciously silent about it, I'm sure that won't cause any issues at all.

[–] mii@awful.systems 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Quick personal sneer: I just had a call with a company trying to sell us their SaaS password/secrets manager solution because we're trying to force everyone to use one instead of using hunter2 everywhere.

Anyway, after going on for 30 minutes about their amazing integrations with every platform on the planet and their super duper security and how their systems are rock solid and never fail, the marketing dude finished off by trying to sell ChatGPT integration as a feature. Not for actual passwords, thank fuck, but in order to quickly produce integrations between their APIs and other systems. He proudly proclaimed that "Usually there's no security issues with just copy-pasting the code from ChatGPT."

Usually.

[–] mii@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Thankfully, some individual instances (like awful!) seem to get it, but for the most part the poison is already baked in, and it’s hard to unbake a cake and begin again.

I think the biggest problem is either the lack of active moderation or, if present, moderators which are too lenient. Not that I blame anyone who thinks that removing the fifteenth racist asshat for the day is not the best use of their time, but the best communities are the ones that to make the effort to keep it clean.

This has been true since the days of Usenet. The good groups were completely moderated to the point where some person had to manually approve every single posted article. It worked (as long as the mods weren't racist asshats themselves, which is a different problem), but in contrast, almost the entire alt. hierarchy was an unmoderated cesspit and to anyone who doesn't know how that turned out long-term: good for you.

Luckily I think we are seeing a rise in moderated communities again. After Usenet and dedicated forums it somehow fell out of fashion (with 4chan and Reddit being the pinnacle of using but muh free speech! to give bigots a platform). Maybe it's confirmation bias, but I do see many fedi instances who have stricter rules again and seem to enforce them in an attempt to create welcoming communities for everyone. I hope this trend continues.

[–] mii@awful.systems 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

There are many good reasons to be critical of copyright, especially because it has been abused so much. Allowing big tech grifters unlimited access to everything everyone ever puts online because they promise to “democratize art” when all they really do it feed it into their spicy autocomplete engines which then flood the internet with AI sludge is not one of them.

Especially when the same fucking people then do a 180 and want protection for the shit their roided Clippy puked out.

[–] mii@awful.systems 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Well, history sure does fucking repeat itself again, doesn't it?

At its low point, some computer scientists and software engineers avoided the term artificial intelligence for fear of being viewed as wild-eyed dreamers. (New York Times, 2005, at the end of the last AI winter.)

[–] mii@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago

Here’s Friend’s advertisement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Q1hoEhfk4 . The music choice and general vibe is… unsettling.

This hast the same vibe as a trailer for shows like Black Mirror. I actually feel sad for the people they're targeting with this, holy shit.

[–] mii@awful.systems 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Yep, exactly the ones I was thinking about. They lobbied over there a while back with “prominent supporters” like Yud and Hinton. Luckily the general consensus was that they were full of shit, so the mod shut it down.

[–] mii@awful.systems 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

That place is an absolute fucking cesspool.

May I suggest /r/artisthate which is Sneer Club for artists sneering at exactly this type of content, and it’s hilarious sometimes (albeit quite large at this point, so your fair share of doomsday rats have sneaked in trying to co-opt the movement and the moderation is quite lenient).

[–] mii@awful.systems 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The fuck is happening over there?

I could have “excused” the AI bullshit as “we did it to appease the corporate customers who make us money” but there’s no way you can spin this.

I’m canceling my account. At this point I might just say fuck it and use my Yahoo mail for everything again.

(And this time the Reddit thread is the dumpster fire I’ve been expecting the last one to be lol)

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