licherally

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[–] licherally@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

No, there is no concern that the term limit will be removed or expanded. It hasn't happened since the amendment was ratified, even after multiple attempts from politicians of various rank and from each party.

There are plenty of things to be concerned about, but the "trump will become the life long leader of the United States in his presidency" rhetoric is stupid and unfounded.

Nixon couldn't do it, truman couldn't do it, trump is not as competent or capable as either of these presidents. It will not happen. This is literally the same shit republicans used to say about Obama and it didn't happen then.

He would have to convince 3/4s of the states in both the house of representatives and Congress to ratify, and there is no way he could do that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I understand where you're coming from, but I still don't think it's anyone's right to tell me or anyone else that they are obligated to vote for any president.

Vote for everything else, vote in your local elections. That's what changes things. But I don't believe it's my duty to vote for one of two pieces of shit every election just because of some screeching fucking retards on the Internet.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're not going to provide any context at all? I'm not going to give you your answer for you.

Tell me what leaps you are referring to so that I can better educate myself, or fuck off. It is truly that simple.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

According to the idf Israel removed themselves in 2005. But this is under heavy scrutiny from various human rights organizations.

"The United Nations, international human rights organizations and many legal scholars regard the Gaza Strip to still be under military occupation by Israel.[5] This is disputed by Israel and other legal scholars.[75] They argue that occupation requires an actual, physical presence by a military force that maintains authority.

Following the withdrawal, Israel continued to maintain direct control over Gaza's air and maritime space, six of Gaza's seven land crossings, maintains a no-go buffer zone within the territory, controls the Palestinian population registry, and Gaza remains dependent on Israel for its water, electricity, telecommunications, and other utilities."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What leaps are you referring to?

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yeah I feel like people misunderstand what I'm saying as though I'm considering voting for trump. I'm not at all. I'm just trying to figure out how well voting for Biden sits on my conscience, or if id rather write in daffy duck this year.

Trump is not on the menu for me, and I feel like I've made that fairly clear but not once talking about voting for him.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The president is a figurehead regardless of who is in office. But I do understand what you're saying. You're welcome to read my long reply to the other person who asked the same question in a much more polite way.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I do have a basis for comparison, and I'm happy to provide my thinking.

Biden is currently supporting a genocide in Palestine and a bombing campaign in Yemen. There is a strong islamophobic slant in the current cabinet.

Biden is a career politician. He knows precisely what he needs to publicize and what he needs to bury. He also generally has more social capital in government.

Trump is a racist and a fascist, but most people in government also think he's a fucking moron. He also literally cannot keep a single thing a secret. He also would likely support the same genocide and bombing campaign that Biden is currently enacting.

Trump is worse in the sense that his beliefs and followers hold a collective single braincell, and that braincell is focused on being racist and generally bigoted. But with that said, there is no real way that he can remove the term limit for the presidency. It's just not really within his power.

Biden is worse in the sense that he has spent an entire career smoothly enacting imperialist policies, some of which were also pretty racist and bigoted. But he also knows what to say and what to do to make people forget about them, not to mention that both of them are old as fuck and show signs of actual senility.

Ultimately I guess Biden is less terrifying for us in the United States, but unfortunately this election doesn't just affect the United States.

I guess it's easy for people to forget about the cost of removing our troops in Afghanistan the way that we did, and how we judge Obama so harshly for the drone strikes that Biden is doing now in larger numbers.

I do want to say that Biden has done some good things. The student loan forgiveness is not at the level that was promised during his previous campaign, but it is relieving the financial burden for many people. He also stopped the construction of the keystone pipeline which is obviously a win for climate change activists all over. And yes, he did remove the troops from Afghanistan which needed to happen twenty+ years ago, even if maybe it could have been done in a better way so as to not leave a huge power vacuum. But trump also did a few good things in his presidency.

His tax tariffs were very effective, the COVID support plan and operation light speed were both very effective and helped millions of Americans through a pandemic. He also accidentally bolstered the strength and support of Obamacare. Not really his intention, but I still consider it a positive.

I want to clarify that I am a leftist, I do not in any way support trump. I will not be voting for trump at all. My reason for thinking through all of this is to say whether I want Biden to win at all, or if I will just vote on everything but the president.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I'm getting so many messages from people about how immature and impractical it is to be wary of voting for Biden just because he isn't trump, it's absurd.

Biden is probably as bad as trump in very different ways, but dipshit liberals would have you believe that it is your patriotic duty to vote with them, otherwise you give a vote to trump when you refuse to vote.

With that being said, please vote in your local elections and for pretty much everything else. As liberals seem to forget, the president is mostly just a figurehead, but your senators, representatives, congressmen, etc mean much more and affect your life more significantly.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Funny equals censorship complaint.

You're a fucking retard

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Explain to me how being reluctant to vote for one of two presidential candidates due to their policies and global politics is immature. Am I supposed to just say "well millions will die either way but at least sleepy Joe relieved some student debt?"

What's impractical is running a country off of the lesser of two evils vote.

[–] licherally@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (7 children)

So you're saying Israel has a right to genocide Palestine because of the previous thousand years of history before 1967?

We can cherry pick timelines if we want to, but the fact is that Israel has occupied Palestine for the last 50 years. This is why Hamas exists, and this is the issue we face today.

The previous thousand years only serve as propaganda for modern Israel to be on board with the genocide.

This is just straight up islamophobic rhetoric

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