frevaljee

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[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That sounds like an interesting idea. So this is a blockchain based idea?

How is it implemented? Is there a payout depending on how the predictions turned out to incentivise positive change?

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (14 children)

How are they very distinct? If I am forced to pay someone money against my will, with threat of violence if I don't, how is that not theft? Just because a state does it, does that make it different somehow?

If I didn't vote for it, it is by definition against my will.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I would argue that voting doesn't make it voluntary. Even if I don't vote for a particular taxation, it might go through anyway if the majority wants it. Majority rule goes against the will of the minority.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I do agree to an extent. Anarcho capitalism is perhaps more of a theoretical idea rather than a practical social structure. And it is not possible to uphold the NAP in an absolute sense – it is inevitable to cause aggression in some ways, through e.g. pollution or whatever. And private ownership of natural resources is, let's say tricky.

I am not an anarcho capitalist myself, but I believe society and interactions should be voluntary. But it is difficult to find a practical social structure where that is possible. I am actually rather pessimistic about people tbh, and our track record shows how bad we are at getting along and leaving people be.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Sure, but that wasn't my point. My point is that you have no say, and therefore it isn't voluntary, making it theft technically.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't think I follow your reasoning tbh. What exactly are you comparing? You said that capitalists favour intervening governments, which is simply not true. Not in any general sense anyway.

Anarcho capitalism is probably as far into anarchy you can go. They want to completely abolish the state and enforce property rights privately.

Or are you saying that such a society will fall into some kind of feudalism? At the core of anarcho capitalism is the NAP which is not really compatible with feudalism. In feudalism you have a hierarchy not based on voluntarism, and that would therefore not be anarcho capitalist.

Do you imply that we need a strong state with a monopoly on violence to keep us in check, otherwise we would descend into chaos? Thats a pretty bleak and pessimistic view of mankind.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

A government which only enforces private property rights is still significantly smaller than most alternatives.

Enforcement of private property rights is a part of virtually all governments, and then you pile all other stuff on top of that hence making the government bigger.

And ofc the taxes will be below the profits, no sane person would make any investments in anything if it was above the profits.

Edit: and to add, many hardcore capitalists, like minarchists, libertarians, or anarcho capitalists, propose that you don't even need a government to enforce private property rights. They'd rather solve that issue privately.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Oh yes, an ideology defined by private ownership and small government intervention is also somehow responsible for the basis of government intervention - taxes.

[–] frevaljee@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

About the second point, it would be neat if "subs" could federate somehow.

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