[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe, but as you are aware and tried and decided to stick to what you were using, then by all means, carry on! I have no qualms with you.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That this screenshot could belong in any of a 100 other forums dedicated to a 100 other programs. What about it has anything to do with emacs?

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

First, you're imagining. Second, having to switch all day between your dark modes and the rest of the world (sites, documents et al) that are on white background is much more "fatiguing" to your eyes, but you don't notice that because you convinced yourself that drawing colorful characters on a blackish background is better.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind that I did not mention either of those by name, you did, so you're debating yourself rather than me. I'm just saying that making a tool, any tool, work best for your use case doesn't mean you can't achieve the same result with another tool, or set of tools after similar customization etc.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Once you learn how to navigate, customize, workaround and enhance a system in a way that fits your need, yes, good luck using another tool that you now need to learn how to navigate, customize, workaround and enhance to use in a way that fits your needs, ha!

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That's... very commendable. Of course, nothing to do with emacs, but hey, whatever works for you. Also, "dark mode" is a myth.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

My word. That's one hell of a cargo-cult maker mindset gone insane. And if you plan on using that for work, oh well. You don't want "roast", you want confirmation in the sense of suggestions for improvement.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Emacs is the opposite of the Unix way, as are many of the GNU tools. It's the opposite of "each tool does one thing and does it well" and is a "one thing will do everything, sometimes well and sometimes less". And since you already have a solution you are using, and are committed to the cargo cult of VI keybindings, then there's no reason for you to try emacs.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm aiming at both sides. I have used a library in work that had a utf8 issue, and started digging through the issues on GitHub, only to find that each such issue was flagged as "wont fix" and the reason was 'no activity on this issue for X amount of time". Which is a tactic I would get fired for had I tried it. I pointed this out and immediately got "we-hell, Pull Requests are welcome". Which is rather not helping. Also, turns out it's a matter with a dependency of that library, which you only found if you went through each issue. But then again, that guy was publishing that library out of the goodness of his heart, so you can only bitch up to a certain point. It's kinda odd because that bug caused me to waste a day and that meant I wasted my employer's money on the issue. So this "labour of love" and voluntary effort can cost people money due to the "I'm not getting paid to do this" attitude sometimes involved with the project. IT is a double edged sword.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If I understand correctly, you are asking why is documentation using bad code examples that are not explanatory and/or usable?

If so, then I believe we can exonerate the emacs community from this issue as this is an industry-wide problem. I recall trying to figure out what a .NET class do from the generic unusable examples given in MS code, and more recently trying to divine meaning from the almost usable but never truly so code examples in Angular documentation. And you'll see that everywhere. I got used to ignore documentation and just read the code. Tests sometimes help as they are actual programs that use the stuff in question, but it does seem like writing good, usable documentation is an art form no one bothered to master. Or even apprentice in.

There's a reason to that, code examples are written by people who are experts in the technology they are documenting. They have no way of knowing what is needed for someone new to understand in order to use it, so they default on writing the most basic code example they can come up with. It's a known issue and you eventually learn to live with it.

Also, don't bother complaining. You are getting this great tool (either emacs or Org-Mode) free and due to the great effort of its writers and maintainers (and I am always amazed at the scope of things that were created this way, it's truly something to be proud of), so be thankful that it actually has documentation and besides, if you don't like something, fix it and send them the patch, don't complain! I mean, you won't get to write that patch because you can't understand the program due to its documentation, but hey, who said life is fair.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Well, you'd say that. The whole poll is incorrect in my non-personal opinion, there are 2 versions of emacs, Gnu Emacs and XEmacs. The rest are just distros and micro is as much emacs as Visual Studio Code with an emacs extension.

[-] erez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Technically MicroEmacs is not really emacs. It's just an editor with the same keys configurations.

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