density

I can't believe how fast this addon was developed into something that is super useful.

A month ago I made a list of all the available addons to address this need. There were I think 4-5 of them and I actually didn't end up using any of them because they were too simple and didn't add much for my usecase.

In the intervening days (days!) this project has really fleshed out. I am impressed that you've managed to make an interface that makes sense. I wasn't sure if that would be possible because it is kind of an inherently complex situation.

And on top of that, it works. There are issues with federation which are network wide and not much you can do about that. But as much as the threadiverse is willing to cooperate, this addon smooths the experience.

Thanks, I really appreciate this.

I am not sure what is correct to put in kbin-core/issues without cluttering it up with somewhat speculative requests. I have no idea how to implement this or whether it is possible. So I will post here?

This is a response to issue
#635 - Editor support for autocompletion when a user types /m/, /c/, /u/, or @

@garrettw said:

After all of this I'm left with the distinct impression that a standardized link format is needed across the fediverse for any fediverse content.

I keep wishing for UUIDs or hashes or an internal link shortener or permalink something.

These are the same post on different instances:

• https://fedia.io/m/firefox/t/132144 <- this is the instance where the community lives
• https://lebowski.social/post/12337 <- this is the poster's home instance
• https://kbin.social/m/firefox@fedia.io/t/237162
• https://beehaw.org/post/6759290

It would be nice if it would have a unique ID like e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 across the *verse. I can't be the first person to think of this right? Why is ity either not a good idea, or not a viable idea?

I imagine 2 variations. I am not attached to any of the particulars... Just spitballing. What do you think?

1. /local/uuid

/local/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002 - this link would bring the user to the post on the instance where you are viewing it.

So if someone writes in a comment:

check out [this post](/local/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002)!

and you are viewing it on beehaw, it renders like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://beehaw.org/post/6759290">this post</a>!</p>

if you are viewing it on kbin.social, it renders like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://kbin.social/m/firefox@fedia.io/t/237162">this post</a>!</p>

2. /orig/uuid

On the other hand we need a way to link to the particular item as it appears "originally". To do this, you could write:

check out [this post](/orig/e3d14d6c-28d7-11ee-be56-0242ac120002)!

And irrespective of where you are looking at it, it will render like this:

<p>check out <a href="https://fedia.io/m/firefox/t/132144">this post</a>!</p>

I am not 100% sure if the correct behaviour for this is to link to the community home instance or the poster's home instance? I went with community home but maybe there is argument for the other way, or for both.

Im sure theyre going to find the perfect mods

I would like to suggest that developers consider as much flexibility when trying to interact with links/handles from off-instance and off-kbin (e.g. lemmy) as possible. I would like for it to work on lemmy in a similar fashion.

I think that the various "incorrect" ways of doing things should work as redirects assuming this would not cause a technical problem. It could even explain the correct way of doing things if you'd like to discourage it.

Non exhaustive examples:

communities

as an example: https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists

search kbin.social for https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists - finds occasions where people have mentioned the URL in comment/post

Most lemmy instances suggest searching for a group in a way that doesn't work:

search kbin.social for
for [!wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca](/c/wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca) - finds occasions where people have mentioned the handle in comment/post

you need to replace ! with @ to find it:

search kbin.social for
for @wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca - works as expected

So the kbin.social URL is https://kbin.social/m/wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca

But what about variations a person could try based on principals of how things work e
lsewhere:

https://kbin.social/m/@wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca

[https://kbin.social/m/!wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca](https://kbin.social/m/[!wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca](/c/wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca))

even allowing use of the /c/ instead of the /m/?

profiles

profiles have similar inconsistencies.

I can view this off-instance profile on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/u/@btschumy@mas.to

but if I try to drop my own username into the same structure, it doesn't work: https://kbin.social/u/@density@kbin.social

The only way to see my profile is (I think) https://kbin.social/u/density

Hope this all is intelligible.

/r/Firefox and /r/FirefoxCSS have both moved to fedia.io kbin instance.

from kbin.social I can access Firefox. But I can't access FirefoxCSS. I waited about 90 mins since first trying. Should I just wait longer or is there some other issue?

@Firefox@fedia.io
fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/Firefox
from kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/Firefox@fedia.io
search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=Firefox%40fedia.io

@FirefoxCSS@fedia.io
fedia link: https://fedia.io/m/FirefoxCSS
kbin.social: https://kbin.social/m/FirefoxCSS@fedia.io "404 Not found"
search on kbin.social: https://kbin.social/search?q=FirefoxCSS%40fedia.io "Empty"

I was thinking about how there are similar communities on different instances. In some cases that is desirable/ok but maybe it would be cool to have another option.

Say there are 3 separate communities on different instances for amateur cobbling (DIY shoes). None are big enough to really get going. Interested users trickle in here and there but there isn't enough to engage them. People try cross posting but that just breaks up discussion and leads to a "spam" feeling for those subbed to all of them. Everyone likes one another and they basically want one unified forum.

Would it be possible to automatically duplicate content posted to each instance to the other 2 instances? Including comments, mentions, etc.

Not like a multi reddit because would also share sidebar, mods, posting rules, other aspects. More like a mirror? or a repost bot?

But I don't know if it would mean

• 1 of the communities is the "main"
• the other 2 are copies under a different name
• they function as symlinks when mentioned or when traffic requested at them

it all goes to "main"

or

• they are all equal to one another
• any post you make to one instance, a post is automatically made on your behalf on the other instances
• likewise any comments or other interactions

or

• a post you make to one instance "lives" on that instance, but the 2 other instances will show it in their feed.
• when viewed on another instance's community, you will see that it is on the original one.

of course this raises questions such as

• what happens if the groups decide to split up after some time?
  -instance have different codes of conduct?
• what if host instances de-federated from each other?
• could it be used to undermine instance autonomy? evade spam bans etc?

Anybody thought of this kind of thing? I doubt it would be on the agenda for next week but interesting to think about.

If you ever have the problem of forgetting you were writing something and closing a window, or accidentally navigating away from the page on which you are composing, this is the browser extension to save your ass: Form History Control.

• Documentation: Form History Control (II)

• Git repo: stephanmahieu/formhistorycontrol-2

• Firefox Addon

• Chrome Web Store

In kbin I especially have this problem as I get logged out constantly for some reason, for example while I am composing even a fairly short comment, and if I submit while logged out the text vanishes. But everything is stored in the extension. It is local to your machine where it will be secure.

I am using it for a year or two now and it has been flawless. It doesn't cause any slowdown in browser performance. It is unnoticeable until that moment you need it.

Archiveteam's Reddit project is working to save reddit content from the hungry maw of corporate destruction.

Archiveteam (AT) is a group which according to their website,

is in no way affiliated with the fine folks at ARCHIVE.ORG

However, the goals and philosophy of archive.org, aka The Wayback Machine, aka The Internet Archive do have significant overlap with AT. AT is coordinated by a staff member of archive.org, and the products of their work are typically donated to archive.org.

They do missions to save particular collections of internets which are under imminent or generalized threat of deletion. One way to participate is by installing their custom Warrior VM software on your computer and it will use your home internet connection to pretend to be a user and systematically crawl/save the material in a coordinated fashion which evades detection.

There can be other tasks if you can't or don't want to run that software. For example if the Warriors are triggering captchas, they can forward the captchas to users who sit around solving them. So you can solve captchas on other people's computers so those computers can proceed unattended.

Here is the tracker showing the moment to moment progress. At time of writing it display 13.58 billion items weighing in at 3.06 petabytes (3,060,000 GB).

Here is a reddit post from a month ago going over this specific project.

You can find more comprehensive info on their website. They coordinate via IRC.

On desktop, I was trying to figure out how to get from the notifications list ( https://kbin.social/settings/notifications ) to the specific comment.

It just links to the top of the thread and I have to ctrl-F for my handle. Which doesn't work easily on long threads or nested comments.

The link in notifications includes an anchor, for example #entry-comment-612642.

If I find the comment and click more > share URL, I get the same anchor link, which also just links to the top of the thread, example: https://kbin.social/m/reddit@lemmy.world/t/152720/r-BotDefense-is-shutting-down-I-hope-Reddit-likes-spam-and#entry-comment-612642

If I click more > copy URL to fediverse, I get a correctly working link on the commenter's home instance: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/768070

Edited out an idea for a workaround which actually doesn't work. And edited the title to remove reference to this.