[-] bartera@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Only if that rule is accurately defined. It's definitely not occuring in the link provided unless you consider "getting bullied and disagreeing with other user" transphobia.

I'm not going to engage with the other user anymore. They want freedom to insult and censor because "they're righteous". It's not an attitude that's specific to one group, mind you, but it's definitely an enlightening interaction in the context of this thread.

Authortiarianism doesn't sit well with me and I consider it an absolute no but I'm playing by the instance rules. I don't think they are but it is what it is.

We'll see how this space develops. Individual users are not relevant, anyway, but the aggregate.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The problem is that Lemmy is being mentioned in hackernews reddit and elsewhere as a potential alternative. Not as an alternative with all those caveats in framing but just so.

Communicating what it is even more boldly might be useful (I know it's been done quite a lot in long self posts but that I'm not sure how much of that goes through)

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

No. I didn't have such a problematic relationship that I didn't control my usage.

I do feel sad about such a great app RiF dying and the deterioration of communities I found great. Also the pattern of googling plus Reddit giving you insights. It was a convenient default which I think will die/deteriorate for a while.

I am excited to see what opportunities arise from this. Very much so.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago

Exactly. I probably don't agree on everything with 100% of developers of the tool out there. I don't want creators of technological tools (or anyone for that matter) to be subject to purity of ideology and opinion tests. I didn't want Brendan Eich gone from Mozilla nor anyone else gone from the tools they develop.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

This is also pretty common. People tend to think like that about everything they had in their formative years.

It's nostalgia plus a realization of how entrenched tech bureocratic processes have penetrated their lives, oftentimes making them worse, not better (many of the improvements are taken for granted).

But my point is you can take this "old times were better" in most of every case when doing these surveys. About music, TV and everything.

What people really want are the benefits without some of the cons that they've very willingly accepted out of laziness and/or ignorance.

They've lost a ton of privacy and rights and ability to discourse and act by being so heavily surveilled and "panopticon'd" into superficial uniformity of opinion.

Many of the things they complain about they can still do "non tech/non online" but it requires more effort than pretending that there should be just one way so they don't have to choose.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

The solution is the same as with the current shitty clickbait of today, ignore it.

If they automate shovelling useless crap (which they've already done quite a bit without the likes of chatgpt) then it's on the user to say "I'm not just gonna consume your crap, I'll go elsewhere with my views, which are your success metric, in aggregate"

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

What would you legislate here? The publication clearly doesn't care about quality and paying some people to fill shitty, already pre programmed templates and using something like chatGPT seems like the same style of crap.

They were definitely not a safe source of labor.

Also, I'd caution against reactive takes of "legislation" when the politicians who can legislate usually don't understand the technologies and are simply trying to bundle stuff in for their lobbyist (who funds them) benefit. The same types who "want to ban encryption" or other myopic takes.

Stronger rights and guarantees around imbalances of power (not specifically related to tech either) would work much better than just reacting to an AI scare.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is definitely a great post. The only thing that I think would help also would be discoverability and user choice, but it's obviously easy to say without working on it.

Reddit had relatively consistent discoverability, but the whole "federation" aspect (which is the whole point) makes a very different landscape to wade through.

Definitely, this is a milestone for a new wave of "early adopters". It will be interesting to see how it evolves.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

You hold viewpoint A and claim that those that hold viewpoint B do it because they are mad because they don't get their way instead listening to the actual stated reason, such as OPs.

I think federation is absolutely interesting but this is definitely a consideration and pretending everyone that raises is "umad" or bad is not compelling. Communities online already have problems of "circlejerk" and extreme uniformity. This could easily foster that even more to a point where there's really no communities of significance. Just similar things to 20-100 people using a chat medium to share stuff.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Meh. "Fascism"? That tactic is used in politics all the time against most prominent leaders and groups, no matter where they come from. They're both inept and totally powerful and Machiavellian.

It's the whole thing about "will bear them with humor and ridicule" but also "look at their evil actions".

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The fun thing is, I never left it. Even when people wanted to convince me that it was unusable, no sites used it or Google reader being killed meant there was no point anymore.

Flym works well enough.

[-] bartera@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

What happened to those subs? Admin takeover?

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