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Written by: Russell T Davies

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cross-posted from: https://toast.ooo/post/4031774

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I seem to recall a few people who were upset that they didn't know these existed the last time it was discussed.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While I certainly wouldn't want every show to be like that, I would absolutely not call it "bad".

It was...transcendent.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Riverdale" is an odd comparison - like it or hate it, it was one of the most high-concept "teen shows" of all time. Absolutely bonkers.

I doubt it - "Academy" was officially announced on May 30, 2023 (and was rumoured to be in development dating back to 2018). "Prodigy" was cancelled on June 23, 2023.

I'll grant that the dates are pretty close together, but I think in a perfect world the two shows would run together, with "Prodigy" targeting the tween crowd, and "Academy" skewing a bit older.

I think the problem is really Paramount+.

This, I completely agree with.

The aging fanbase has been an issue that's been highlighted recently by Jonathan Frakes, among others.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Ah yes, the eternal sin of "trying to attract new viewers."

Why can't they continue catering to the original, immortal fanbase? That's just good business!

Good to know - frustrating, but hopefully we'll get it sorted out.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've noticed the same thing, but inconsistently - the link will often load after the second or third try. Can you confirm?

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That’s why they needed to get the Protostar to the right place, to protect the present.

Right, but they've engineered a "present" in which Gwyn shouldn't exist, which is exactly what they spent the bulk of the season trying to avoid, down to her having to wear the armband to stabilize her.

IDK, at best I think it's way messier than he should be.

”Borg is short for cyborg!” While perhaps Dal is correct metatextually, that’s never been previously stated in Trek. In the Borg’s first appearance, “Q Who”, Guinan simply states, ”They’re called the Borg.” The Borg refer to themselves as such, there would be little reason for them to have named themselves after a term that originated in 1960s Earth science fiction.

There's a distinct possibility that it's Swedish.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, this has bugged me more the more I've thought about it. I think it undercuts the urgency of the entire season, which repeatedly emphasized how important it was to send the Protostar through the wormhole and making things exactly the way they were in season one.

Except it's apparently fine for Solum to never have its disastrous civil war, and never train soldiers to go back in time, even though that was absolutely critical to the story.

It seems like an effort to have their cake and eat it, too. Even if you can make it work logically, I don't think it works thematically.

It's hard to characterize mergers of this type as good news, but if Skydance is actually going to be "creative-first", it might be the least-bad of the potential outcomes that have been in play over the last year or so.

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