ThePenitentOne

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[–] ThePenitentOne 3 points 1 year ago

Even if it isn't exactly true, it definitely feels like it sometimes.

[–] ThePenitentOne 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it doesn't even to serve to increase the chance of survival past a point. It becomes redundant and if anything makes you a bigger target once you get so high. Eventually, it just becomes needless greed at the expense of others and requires a lack of morals and apathy to continue on. I think the real problem is that people don't hold others accountable, and because narcissistic and psychopathic people tend to search for power, they are usually the ones ending up in the roles. The issue is that society doesn't care that it is that way, and that people have used their influence to conditions others into thinking that the system they live in is OK and not completely unjust. So yes, when people are not held accountable, the worst people climb to the top the fastest. Yet, humans have also proven that they can overcome their own instincts and also through their own work managed to make it so that modern day survival is incredibly easily for almost everyone when they didn't need to. Humans are not bound to act a certain way due to their genetics. It's usually a reaction to the system they live in and what they are told that causes their behaviours, of course certain people will always end up a certain way, but that is very rare.

[–] ThePenitentOne 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That with improving education and access to information, people will inevitably realise lots of injustice in this world is unnecessary and easily solved one way or another. They will eventually see through the constant bias and falsehoods pushed onto them since birth and realise that creating suffering and destruction for their own personal desires is not just or normal. Eventually it will end and we will move forward. Soon enough, people will be held accountable.

[–] ThePenitentOne 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just false though. You are ignoring how heavily the environment you live in impacts you. It's literally everything. Living in a hierarchic society that oppresses those below and provides massive benefits for those above just incentivises people to express greedy behaviours because otherwise they will be stuck below to suffer. If you changed the environment one lived in and was educated in, you could create a completely different outcome. It's no surprise abusive families tend to be cyclical, while it is incredibly rare somebody becomes abusive on their own. Behaviours are learned for the most part.

Also, the whole 'humans in general' is just dishonest. The people making the decisions are a minority within a minority. It's not representative of the larger population. You can say the people participating are supporting it, which is true, but even then it doesn't mean that they would want the system to be that way in the first place. For many poorer people without opportunities, they have no choice or chance to advance. It's literally rigged against them.

Abusing power and killing people are acts that humans do. But so is everything, so that isn't really even a point. Literally everything is we do is 'human'.

If you want to say 'humans in general' create these systems, then why do you think that is anyway?

[–] ThePenitentOne 1 points 1 year ago

Edited my comment. But what is your point, then?

[–] ThePenitentOne 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

So what is your point, then? That abusing power and killing people is human? Also, calling something 'human' basically is another way to describe 'human nature' since everything is human nature that one does.

[–] ThePenitentOne 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

The human nature argument is not an argument at all because everything we do is 'human nature'. What is far more evident is that humans will adapt to their environment to succeed or find a way to change the environment, and so when you have a system which promotes certain behaviours it is 'nature' to follow them and act in a certain way to take advantage, or to find a way to change the environment they are in.

This is such a one dimensional view of 'human nature' because you should need to define what it is before you make such a statement. Why is greed any more human nature than care and empathy? It's almost always been projection or ignorance when I hear people say that 'capitalism is human nature.' There will always be sociopaths and psychopaths, but why then have a system that promotes the worst traits of humanity at the expense of the rest rather than one that serves to find the greatest benefit for the most people? You act like greedy and corrupt people can't be held down or put in check, and conveniently ignore that the environment humans are now raised in is entirely centred around poorly regulated capitalism.

[–] ThePenitentOne 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. Either way, most people are rationalising and reactive, not rational. If you try to tell someone eating meat is bad because factory farming is abhorrent, many people will defend their actions and avoid direct accountability rather than admit or consider the problems that they support.

[–] ThePenitentOne 5 points 1 year ago

'Human nature is when you kill and betray your own species for greed.'

[–] ThePenitentOne 3 points 1 year ago

Bro, you just don't get it. Greed is a totally justified reason to cause mass suffering to your own species for temporary benefits without any other incentive to do so!!!

People who say this stuff unironically are just psychos.

[–] ThePenitentOne 7 points 1 year ago

Anything to encourage even a single person to spend more money. It's just sad, really.

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