SevenOfWine

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[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is it?

What about the Armenian genocide? Does it get taught in Turkish schools? Is there a statue?

What about Holodomor? Does that get taught in Russian schools? Is there a statue?

What about the up to 50 million who died as a consequence of the Great Leap Forward? Is there a statue commemorating them?

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

The guardian did an interesting piece on that:

The form of Russian fascism Dugin and Prokhanov defended is like the central versions of European fascism – explicitly antisemitic. As Snyder writes, “… if Prokhanov had a core belief, it was the endless struggle of the empty and abstract sea-people against the hearty and righteous land-people. Like Adolf Hitler, Prokhanov blamed world Jewry for inventing the ideas that enslaved his homeland. He also blamed them for the Holocaust.” ... . ... By claiming that the aim of the invasion is to “denazify” Ukraine, Putin appeals to the myths of contemporary eastern European antisemitism – that a global cabal of Jews were (and are) the real agents of violence against Russian Christians and the real victims of the Nazis were not the Jews, but rather this group. Russian Christians are targets of a conspiracy by a global elite, who, using the vocabulary of liberal democracy and human rights, attack the Christian faith and the Russian nation. Putin’s propaganda is not aimed at an obviously skeptical west, but rather appeals domestically to this strain of Christian nationalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/25/vladimir-putin-ukraine-attack-antisemitism-denazify

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

With regards to Belgium: the colonial museum has been revamped, schools teach what happened in the Belgian Congo, and no one's going around defending or idealising King Leopold who presided over the worst atrocities. Belgian nationalism barely exists, so that hasn't been a thing in living memory anyway.

Also, what happened in Congo was widely derided even at the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casement_Report

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

What happened in Congo is taught in Belgian schools and widely known in Europe. Belgium was widely derided for it even at the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casement_Report

Judging by your username, you're Turkish. Are you taught about the Armenian genocide in school?

Or is that one whataboutism too far?

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's disgusting. Goes to show they don't actually care about Palestinians and probably don't even think this is a genocide.

I mean, if they genuinely cared or thought this was a genocide, why are they now defending China and Russia blocking an immediate ceasefire that would at least temporarily stop Palestinian suffering?

How entirely predictable that the same kind of people who make excuses for Russia's role in the genocide in Darfur, Russia's role in Syria, Russian war crimes in Ukraine, and China's treatment of the Uyghurs, care more about scoring points against the US than ending the war in Gaza.

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)
[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

To force the population to believe the lie. Out of fear or because they have been brain-washed. A test of loyalty.

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ask them the pin code or credit card number.

When they refuse to give it, reply "So you do have something to hide."

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 12 points 9 months ago

I actually enjoy that sentence, because you can ask them for the pin code of their bank card.

[–] SevenOfWine@startrek.website 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

A real friend wants their friends to be happy. Maybe think about that next time you selfishly decide not to go down on them.

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