[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Wait. To counter my argument that there is no Palestine you provide a snapshot of the mandate recognizing the historical connection of the Jewish people to the land? Doesn't that counter your arguments? Yes, the british called this peice of land Palestine. Do you know where the name originates from? The Jewish Bible where the Philistines are mentioned as large red headed folk probably originating from somewhere near Greece. So do the current Palestinians claim to be their decendants? Jewish people have always lived in the region of Israel which was under the occupation of numerous other empries. The arab folk living in Israel prior to 1948 can trace their heritages to a myriad of neighboring countries such as Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq and so forth (Some of their surnames are a clear indication of that).

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
  • I still haven't seen proof of this Go search the "Hamas horror film". Then answer again what you think a reasonable response is.

  • this didn't start October 7 When did it start then?

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Israel has lost over 500 soldiers to date. Why put soldiers at risk? You can be sure that if all Israel wanted was annihilation then there are way better ways (dumb bombs as you say) to just completely level Gaza. Israel is targeting military targets which reside within dense population. This sometimes results in unintended deaths thats war. Also, journalists in war zone tend to get killed. Especially ones which embed themselves within combatants. I would also argue the actual number of journalists killed is much smaller, as the definition of a "journalist" is very fluid these days. But that's just my speculation at the moment, I don't have facts to back that up.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Yes. This is a bad government. Is that a reason for the atrocities of oct 7?

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

That's proof that there is a war on. No proof of any systematic killings. Based on Palestinian reports there are about 20000 dead, no information of course on how many of them combatants. So over the course of 3 months you have a less than 1 percent fatalities. I point you back to my meme and ask tou where's the genocide. In the ww2 bombing of dresden 25000 people were killed in just 4 attacks. Israel is doing everything possible to kill only combatants. As I mentioned earlier it is impossible to avoid civilian deaths as they are being used as human shields. Military equipment is constantly being found in hospitals, mosques, schools and under childrens beds.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The Israel government on the other hand is adamant to kill every last Palestinian or ethnically cleanse them with forced displacement. - please show your proof. And please don't give me quotes from several outliers which unfortunately have been brought recently into the Israeli government. They don't represent the majority of Israel as apperantly the multitudes cheering in the streets while the October 7th hostiges were paraded through Gaza streets represent the people of Gaza.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Ok. I assume you don't live in Gaza. Because then you'd be learning antisemitism in school: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/eu-study-confirms-incitement-in-palestinian-textbooks

And I assume you don't go to mosque because then you'd be hearing about gharqad

And probably didn't attend these protests: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/death-to-the-jews-chants-heard-at-berlin-pro-palestinian-rally/amp/

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjdkan0mp

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Really? Has Bibi publicly stated he plans on genocide? Because Hamas has publicly stated, many many times, that the only thing they care about is the total inhalation of all non-muslims.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Excellent debate. Thanks.

[-] IceBerg@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago
  1. Hang on, don't stop. Which countries? And by new palastine do you mean the one controlled by Hamas who have kill all jews and christians in their charter? So basically just kill everyone who is currently living in Israel?
  2. So all the christian and muslim arabs who are Israeli citizens too. Right? You wouldn't want to come off as a racist impliying only jews should be displaced would you?
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