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submitted 1 year ago by Glome@kbin.social to c/linux@kbin.social

TLDR at bottom.

On most linux forums, it seems that everyone is trash talking flatpaks, snaps, docker, and other containerized packages with the statement that they are "pre-compiled". Is there a real-world affect that this has with performance and/or security, and does this have to do with canonical and/or redhat leaving a bad taste in people's mouths due to previous scandals?

Also, it is easier for the developer to maintain only one version of the package for every user. All of the dependencies come with the package meaning that there aren't distro-specific problems and everything "just works" out of the box.

I understand that this also makes the flatpaks larger, but there is deduplication that shrinks them as you install more by re-using libraries. Do the drawbacks of a slightly larger initial disk usage really outweigh all of its advantages?

I have heard that flatpaks are slower than distro-specific compiled binaries but haven't seen a case where this affects performance in the real world.

TLDR: In most forums linux users tend to take the side of distro-specific packages without an explanation as to why.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No, I am using fedora silverblue which is point release. But there are rolling release immutable distros like opensuse aeon/kalpa im pretty sure. Basically the system files are read only and packages are "layered" onto the system image through transactional upgrades. Most of the packages you want to install should be in containers like flatpak (for gui) and distrobox (for terminal). This keeps the base system clean and small and doesn't get "bloated" like other mutable OS's.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's a way to go at least for rolling release. However, tw is looking less and less interesting than it used to 5 years ago now that all these shiny new immutable distros are coming out.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Wow I had no idea Kate had support for LSP after using plasma distros for years. I always assumed it was a basic text editor and used vim instead.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Glome@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure sid also has package freezes for when it moves up to testing. In general Debian's purpose is as a stable distro and it might be better to use a distro that focuses on rolling release for bleeding edge packages.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Can windows also break grub on gpt or only legacy mbr?

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Tbh, I feel like it's a loud minority tho. The majority of linux users (also happen to be the quietest) are "normies" that use Ubuntu and don't have this type of attitude.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Stable? That's for horses.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

No BSD? πŸ₯ΊπŸ‘‰πŸ‘ˆ

[-] Glome@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's true that it can be a powerful distro but I've also heard from some users that the advanced-level documentation is lacking and only limited to forums and source code. I think maybe if the documentation was more thorough I would try nixos.

[-] Glome@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Yup, that seems what it is. Thanks can't believe I couldn't figure that out myself πŸ˜….

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I've found that some of the replies in kbin have solid lines and some are dashed even though they are relplying to the same comment. Are dashed lines for accounts on unfederated instances or something similar? (still new to fediverse so not sure how this all works)

[-] Glome@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. It's surprisingly stable for a rolling release distro.

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