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is going to be focused around the interview that we did with Alexander Dugan now if you haven't seen that full interview or if you've uh if you haven't even seen parts of it the link I put in the chat it's the first message there it says link to our full interview with Alexander Dugan please uh watch that

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and I asked some people who are fans of the channel now who are you know Dugan supporters to send me some materials so I'm definitely looking forward to reading about that uh yeah I've heard of infrared yeah actually I follow his uh his telegram Channel

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uh I think I think the the lesson we should take from Dugan to be honest and is is that I think I think we the main lesson in my opinion is that we should not think that traditionalism is in contradiction with Marxism leninism in terms of uh social policy and cultural policy I don't think these uh like these issues should even like be at the Forefront of uh communist political programs either I mean like so much time is spent on in a lot of leftist groups on what what essentially at this point it wasn't always like this but at this point a lot amounts to Liberal issues like talking about um you know trans athletes are they able to participate in this or that uh talking about like I don't know all this stuff connected to sexuality it's like it's not it's it this stuff is not uh critical to the the advancement of the Marxism movement and it's something that no other Communist Party in the world is uh is is really paying that sort of attention to outside of the West so I think what we should do is understand that like whether someone's more traditionally oriented or like super into this I guess identity politics stuff or cultural politics this is not like a critical factor in deciding whether or not someone is Progressive in terms of the class struggle or not that's I think that's I think what the main thing we should take away like we should not uh like we should not we should not denounce Dugan because he thinks that the that like the focus on trans issues or something in the west is like ridiculous that should not be the the critical moment

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TLDR you must acknowledge that caring about gay rights is western imperialism if you are a true anti imperialist marxist leninist, don't bother watching, just skim the transcripts if need be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjgk6HNLmX4

This guy is just an expat in Russia who works for RT and collaborates with Caleb Maupin's CPI to make videos about LaRouche shit and does the classic leftist move of interviewing an ideological fascist Alexander Dugin to try to find some common ground and also PCUSAs congressional candidate :shrug-outta-hecks: wonder why that would happen

the bar is so low these days you make your channel have red on it and you're like I'm an "anti imperialist marxist leninist" and I hate liberalism, liberals are the west, west are liberalism, lgbtq is west and liberalism, west and liberals bad, lgbtq bad, and my channel is somehow about how we're going to bring about the revolution bc of my inspiring ideas and all the theory that I've definitely read a single page of

https://unofficialbird.com/DonaldCourter

Of course they retweet both Haz, Peter Coffin, and, Hinkle, the strongest bastions of "anti imperialist marxist leninist" thought

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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

1k views in an entire month

Genuinely thought this was Haz

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Like what part of universal liberation do these fuckers not get?

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasnt Dugin a founding member of the the National Bolshevik Party in Russia ? Like im all for building a big tent but you gotta have at least "some" standards.

[–] MaoistLandlord@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The fact that NazBol Gang became a short lived meme only to swing back in full force with corporate sponsors just makes me :stalin-stressed:

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Communists need to stop making memes we did the same fucking thing by creating dark biden.

I swear the libs and thinktanks are just listening in to us and being like "Oooooooh that's a good idea jot that down!"

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

While we should be ever vigilant of infiltration...Nazbols are a meme. They dont really exist outside of some very sad places on the internet. I would be much more worried about feds and chuds. (At least in the West). You could probably look towards some leftist figures fishing for rightwing approval with concern but I doubt we have to be worried about a red-brown alliance any time soon.

[–] wrecker_vs_dracula@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I've seen this guy around before. It seems like he really wants to connect with communists in the USA who take a pro-Russian stance on the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. That's a very short list, and he's not picky about who he associates with as long as they profess communism and condemn the Ukrainian regime. I wouldn't expect his "Marxist-Leninist" analysis of anything to carry much weight, as he is not to my knowledge a member of a communist party. He is however frequently on the ground in the Donbas and speaks native English, so I find him worth listening to on that subject.

Doing a stream about Alexander Dugin is what I would call a bad move. To be honest, I don't know much about that guy and I don't really care to spend time researching him. That long block quote you provided seems to be looking at the issue of trans rights in the communist movement exactly backwards. Of course any communist organization should be firm in its support of trans rights. Communists should welcome trans comrades and include them and their issues in the communist project. We all know that the class struggle is the primary struggle, and it is for this reason that it is unserious and petty to place anti-trans bigotry ahead of class solidarity.

I've seen this kind of thinking before. Paul Cockshott comes to mind. People get this idea in their head that there is a huge trans rights or queer rights lobby that is sucking all the energy out of the communist movement. Or maybe they think that infiltrators are trying to use these social issues as a wedge to split organizations. I don't see anything like that happening in real life. The Communist ideology is under constant attack, but not from those quarters.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Let's assess the ideas of Alexander Dugin from a Marxist-Leninist perspective:

It's reactionary idealist garbage.

Thus concludes the assessment of the ideas of Alexander Dugin from a Marxist-Leninist perspective.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

so much time is spent on in a lot of leftist groups on...trans athletes are they able to participate in this or that

Don't need to spend time discussing it if you just purge the debate bro reactionaries from your org. :mao-aggro-shining: