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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How do people in the u.s get tribe status when they're like 1/60th native, and I'm 57% and my government says that's not enough?

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's handled by individual tribal governments. Some are very strict about who they let in, others are much more liberal about it. Basically it isn't our federal government that makes that determination.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just below you somebody posted that Barker was of 1/8 Native heritage.
Yet he grew up on a reservation, and even strict tribal elders should (and probably did) take into consideration Barker's positive accomplishments for society in general, such as his campaign of awareness to spay/neuter pets to help keep the population under control humanely, and he was never afraid of using his microphone and airtime to remind his large audience every day, for decades.

What I'm saying is, even if 1/8 wasn't technically enough, he could have made it in just like accomplished artists often receive honorary PhDs from prestigious Universities, even when they did not have (or finish) their formal education when younger.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

57% of which tribe? With more than half, I would expect you to have a fairly strong upbringing in the tribe with various customs and your parents likely know how to get you enrolled.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not always that simple. My father has tried for years but gets stonewalled because of who his father was, my grandfather was disowned for marrying a white woman rather than leave her a single mother. In the end I think being cut off like that is what killed my grandfather really.

[–] freecandy@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@lemmy.dickbutt/autobio50words

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Some tribes have been in legal battles over the past few decades because they're trying to disenroll people no matter how "native" they are. IIRC at least one tribe was limiting membership to only the descendants of the families that signed a specific treaty and then only if they had the paperwork to back it up. Which, if you know anything about the history of natives in this country, is really fucked up to require.

Not the one I remember but here's an example of a tribe disenrolling people regardless of their "blood quantum":

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/united-nations-watchdogs-raise-concerns-about-nooksack-evictions-again/

Barker was apparently 1/8 native.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US, it depends on the tribe and they decide how much you need. Some are stricter than others. Canada and the US have been competing for worst treatment of first nations for a long time.

[–] Appropriate_Rate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Explain to me how you're 57%.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

73 of his 128 great great great great great grandparents were native Americans.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Realistically, they probably got that number from 23andMe or similar.

Mine is 2.6% for Indigenous American, which is well within margin of error of what I heard from my family. (Note that those tests actually have very wide error bars anyway)

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wishing him a blessed journey to the land of souls.

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Are you from the Rapid City area or is your username a coincidence? Always trips me out when I come across anyone from SoDak.

[–] HarrySlaughter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Former South Dakotan here! I feel the same way when I see another Dakotan here

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

there are like 50 rapid towns in the US

[–] turtlepower@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

The rest of them are slow af

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Thus the question and not an assertion.

Imagine how it feels for Wyomingites like me, never happens