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Show me some prime jazz, music nerds

EDIT: WOW I did not expect that many replies, thank you all for the fantastic examples.

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[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can't let a jazz thread in a lefty space go by without posting the greatest album cover in jazz: Thelonious Monk, Underground

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

When Monk went on a European tour in the late 60s, the entire time he didn't say a single word to anyone in the band. Months after they got back, he called the band members to apologize. He said he just couldn't talk to them because they were too ugly.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Miles Davis: β€œJazz is only a white man’s word he gave to music that he couldn’t play”

But yeah, Miles Davis is a classic

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago

Except Bill Evans. You alright, white man

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[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Not nearly enough Django Reinhardt love in this thread... Anyway, here's "Minor Swing":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTlo809EIlo

Edit: and "Nuages":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ-mxcP70O8

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's so cool. Imagine having three fingers on one hand and still becoming the greatest jazz guitarist of all time

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Seriously. Plus with the balls the guy must have had to go back to Nazi-occupied France to play Romani jazz in Paris... it's a wonder that he could even walk around.

Meanwhile, I only ever heard of him because of Tony Iommi...

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Check out Bireli Lagrene if you're into jazz manouche.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

jazz manouche

More and more people are saying this!

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not the biggest jazz person, but here's a few in different styles

Some New Orleans Hot Jazz

Legendary pianist Fats Waller

Some swing music with an incredible dance sequence

It was THE popular music for around 50-60 years, so while most people think of it in it's most esoteric and artistically developed forms, most of it is actually very fun

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[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The one and only, magnificent, Sun Ra Arkestra. Led by the Maestro Marshall Allen, the oldest working musician in the world. He just celebrated his 100th birthday. I'm very proud to say that I'm friends with Marshall.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyMP339MNww&pp=ygUUU3VuIFJhIEFya2VzdHJhIDIwMjQ%3D

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[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue is one of the great jazz albums of all time

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Modal jazz can be an acquired taste

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

huh, is that so. i was probably played this album before any other jazz album.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trying to define jazz is going to be a bad time, like trying to define art or the meaning of life. Jazz originated and developed over time as an African American take on popular music; bands playing popular tunes all night at dance clubs developed their own style, swinging the rhythm to keep people dancing and improvising to keep the music fresh.

I think the development of bebop had a huge effect on jazz, taking it from being primarily dance music to then focusing on virtuosic players. Bands got smaller and soloists became much more of a focus. Since bebop popped up in the 40s, most jazz has been heavily influenced by it.

Since the early 60s probably, there's been a lot more branching and specialization in different jazz traditions, along with the growth of free jazz and other avant garde styles that explore breaking various "rules" of trad jazz.

It's hard to recommend more than a few certified classics without knowing what you're looking for. I'd say early John Coltrane, Hank Mobley, and Charlie Parker are a great place to start. If you want to go earlier, Louis Armstrong's early stuff is great if you can get over the recording quality. If you want to go later, good luck, there's a ton.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Bebop was also popularized because bands got smaller due to conscription or just people joining the war effort, either at home or on the front. The music changed to fit the material circumstances of playing it.

[–] yoink@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

jazz is such a wide and interesting genre, i think it gets dismissed way too readily by a lot of people

this is a fun one - Moanin', done by Charles Mingus

another personal favourite that gets stuck in my head all the time, but a bit older - A Night in Tunisia, done by Miles Davis & Charlie Parker

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[–] SpanishSpaceAgency@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd recommend checking out the black saint and the sinner lady by mingus

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Jazz is studying the rules of music theory for an entire lifetime just to know the correct way to break them

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Coltrane is fun, my mom hated him for the same reasons as metal, said it reminded her of ants dancing on your brain: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ux2qH8CMVr4

Comet is coming is an interesting fusion newer stuff https://yewtu.be/watch?v=G55GspnNkBo

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[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

Kamasi Washington, The Epic. Such a great jazz album.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yo jazz is music at its most theoretical, most experimental. Only the best of the best can do it well and it's not always easy to listen to. It's not always designed to chill with, sometimes it's more akin to the feeling of learning something new than the feeling you get listening to music. Lots of times i listen and don't enjoy, never come back. But sometimes i listen, initially don't like, but come to appreciate the idea and come around. I think because jazz is so experimental it's ok if you don't dig it. Even if you don't, it drives the rest of music and you'll eventually hear its impact on all the songs you love if you take the time to learn to appreciate it.

Check out the Miles davis - kind of blue album. Immensely listenable and chill. If you like it, check out the extended versions or there where Davis talks about how he arranged it and put it together.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I don't know. I don't know what rock or rap is, but I know what it is when I hear it. Same with jazz. What I do know is that it was demonized as literal devil music, or just degenerte music, similar to rock and rap, and that it was heavily segregated. But despite that, most of the top musicians had some of the most intimate and advanced understanding of music and classical theory, and the genre is now associated with snooty high society and exclusive music schools

[–] DrBeat@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Three songs from the 70's which I adore:

Ahmad Jamal Trio - I Love Music --------- (spot the sample in a classic 90s hiphop track)

Herbie Hancock - Watermelon Man --------- (I've got a ticket to see Herbie later this year, can't believe it)

Idris Muhammad - Could Heaven Ever Be Like This --------- (Just such a huge huge huge track, sitting in a jazz-funk-disco nexus in '77, seriously actually listen to this)

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Gonna second the recs for Django. His work is deceptively simple, but it basically makes it great for people unfamiliar with jazz as a whole. Just starting off on some of the more wild and experimental stuff may not be the best approach.

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[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of great recs in here, but I want to recommend some more modern jazz. First up is Chief Adjuah, an absolutely phenomenal "jazz" (he hates the word because it's been colonised by white academics, so he uses stretch music) musician who has invented multiple instruments and takes influences from all around the world, most prominently trap beats and other electronic beats. The Emancipation Procrastination is a great place to start; his latest album Bark Out Thunder Roar Out Lightning is electric as well. Cannot recommend him enough.

The London jazz scene is superb as well, they're taking a lot of Afrobeat influences and folding them back into jazz. Sons of Kemet are extremely powerful, fast and hard hitting. Their album Your Queen Is a Reptile (yes, about Queen Lizzy) is a wonderful joyride or Afrobeat inspired jazz. Some other recs are Nubya Garcia, Moses Boyd, Ezra Collective, Alfa Mist.

Worldwide, I love this Pakistani jazz group called Jaubi. Their 2021 Nafs at Peace combines Pakistani instrumentation with Western jazz concepts and it really really works. Hiromi is a Japanese jazz pianist who is perhaps the best pianist in the world, seen her live a few times and she's a true force of nature. Insane playing, you can see her Tiny Desk here. There's this Iranian jazz album I love called It's Still Autumn that has such a serene vibe, I recommend it. Tinariwen skirts between jazz and rock, but they're a Taureg guitar group out of Mali that absolutely slaps, everything they put out is great. They also did a Tiny Desk concert.

I have a ton of other recommendations, both contemporary and 20th century stuff (and I didn't even get into the expansive world of Japanese jazz!) so if any of the above really excites you I can provide more.

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[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

I'm going to give you a somewhat leftfield recommendation here, because I'm not going to recommend you an album or a song, but a film and a book:

The film is "Jazz on a Summer's Day" which is a wonderfully expressionistic concert film of the 1958 newport jazz festival, which has lots of classic jazz musicians playing and even besides it being a fantastic film, it also really helps seeing the performers in action if you want to understand the music.

The book is "How to listen to Jazz" by Ted Gioa (which you can find on libgen but I can't seem to connect right now). The thing about Jazz is that it's a genuinely different type of music compared to all Rock/Pop that developed as a mostly independent tradition. As such if you want to get into it your previous listening experience isn't going to help you much and might actually get into your way.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Badbadnotgood, Kamasi Washington, Thundercat

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[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

If you don’t know jazz the most accessible entry is probably swing era jazz, which was basically the pop music of the 30s but infinitely more interesting than modern pop music. Billy Hollidays early music (the stuff she did on Columbia Records) is very good.

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