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[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So is there study that would have looked into how much of the sugar was just replaced with other sweeteners? Or how much soda consumption itself has changed?

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with other sweeteners?

[–] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 months ago

Most sweeteners have their own health risks. Generally probably still better than sugar, but just moving to sweeteners isn't all sunshine and happiness.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Carcinogenic like aspartame, and still activate glucose receptors (that's why they are sweet) so still cause insulin resistance etc.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aspartame is not carcinogenic.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's in the same carcinogen group as acetaldehyde, aflatoxin, chloroform, DDT and lead. But sure go around making those bold claims which are not supported by the WHO.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's also in the same carcinogen group as electromagnetic fields, aloe vera, nickel, and kimchi. Most of those things you listed are quite dangerous for other reasons, but cancer is not the primary concern with any of them.

IARC group 2B is where substances end up if a study manages to produce cancer at any dose. If you drink 50 cans of diet coke per day (which is the equivalent of the rat study that demonstrated that it's possible for aspartame to cause cancer), then you might get cancer caused by the aspartame you just consumed.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay now we are getting somewhere. It's admittedly carcinogenic but the dose is debatable. I think the revised threshold is 8 glasses of soft drink or 2L per day but seems to be dropping every few years

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine what would happen if the government actually regulated and restricted sugar.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if people gave a shit about what they consumed

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

People in despair don't care about much at all. Nevermind this shit is addictive, psychologically manipulative, it also acts as a little dopamine hit in an otherwise miserable life. Obesity deaths are deaths of despair.

Imagine if people wanted to live.