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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 69 points 4 months ago (29 children)

Don't worry, the people who need to listen to this will take one look at this and say "Well, I'M voting with my HEART", because their heart tells them to do everything they can to enable fascism in the US.

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[–] Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This will also work for conservatives, though. They will imsist that the most vulnerable people are unborn children, therefore they should vote anti-abortion

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Will = have been for decades and will continue to do so. Up next is contraception because they will act like unfertilized eggs are children next.

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[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Idk.

On the one hand Trump might go to prison for the rest of his life if he loses this election.

On the other hand most of my policy goals are at least considered by Biden.

So I think I'll ignore you and happily vote to send Trump to prison.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

"I'm sure letting the fascists win chasing the rapturous dream that this time surely it will teach the DNC "its lesson" is 100% in the interests of that trans kid! And I get to make that judgement call because the list the fascists put out says how much further down the kill list I am from them!"

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 19 points 4 months ago

The struggling landlord who isn't even being tipped 😭

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago
[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IMHO foolish to focus on the most vulnerable rather than how most people are vulnerable in some way or another and putting foremost in policy messaging changes that would help large numbers of people.

I sympathize with the plight of trans folks and other smaller disadvantaged minority groups but half of Americans are barely making ends meet, and America is falling further behind in manufacturing, infrastructure and technology/research, all while bathroom bills and grooming narratives are decade+ old very effective wedge issues.

Help the most vulnerable certainly but put front and foremost how the vast majority would be helped if you want to motivate voters and win converts.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A rising tide lifts all boats.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That's what I'm saying, that's a winning message, rather than focusing on hauling ashore the few boats deemed most deserving by whatever metric and implying the others are less important and can wait.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The most vulnerable people I know are being targeted by a campaign of genocide. How do I vote in their best interests?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Assuming you're talking about Palestine, probably the one that hasn't told donors that he plans to crush protests and deport demonstrators on the matter

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[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And disabled or chronically ill people!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

I can't wait to be on the chopping block!

I mean, almost unironically, except that I would hate to give fascists any satisfaction.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Uhm...yeah. Everybody is against gender affirming surgery for minors.

Contrary to what right-wing media likes to claim, it doesn't happen.

What does happen for transgender youth is puberty blockers. That allows them to delay the hormonal changes of puberty so that they may make an easier physical transition, if they so choose, when they are an adult. In the meantime, trans girls can more easily tuck and won't develop a 5 o'clock shadow or deep voice, trans boys will not be growing breasts or menstruating, and both retain more a more gender-ambiguous frame.

But puberty blockers have other uses besides gender-affirming care, and they've long been proven incredibly safe and non-permanent.

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[–] Anomaline@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It's difficult enough to get as an adult lmao

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Ever heard of Project 2025?

It calls for barring transgender people from the military and to stop what it considers the “toxic normalization of transgenderism” across the government and American society. It seeks to abolish the president’s Gender Policy Council, “which it views as promoting abortion and the ‘new woke gender ideology,’”

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they're vastly less than perfect and I don't want any of this for Americans but I want outright fascism less.

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[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The most vulnerable person is a black trans woman, she is also a conservative, I did not think people like her existed until I met her.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

She's in the sunken place.

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[–] notanaltaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The most vulnerable would probably be some kid in Gaza without access to clean water.

But I haven't met them.

Can I vote for them and, if so, who do I choose?

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