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[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago
[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The British isles consists of both Ireland and the United Kingdom.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's kind of a shitty name to insist upon given our history with Ireland though, isn't it? Like, regardless of what it was called, we can call the archipelago "the British and Irish Isles" or something if we want to.

Personally I reckon we should call it Maughold's Isles. "British and Irish Isles" is fine, if a little wordy. "Islands of the North Atlantic" is one I see floated every so often, but it's miserably generic and even longer. So I suggest we use the patron saint of the Isle of Man. It's in between Britain and Ireland and technically not part of the UK. Maughold himself was a pirate who tried to play a practical joke on St Patrick, so he's a bit of a scoundrel, and it's exactly the kind of silly trivia that we like so much here

[–] alansuspect@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As a Manxman I approve 👍 I'm actually surprised how much of the Island is still there.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Good man yourself

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As an Irish person, geographically, it does. Politically it does not. Given this is a geographical map, rather than political, it's appropriate.

I wouldn't want to see the typical map if great Britain and Northern Ireland with ROI missing. I zoomed in to see my town, which luckily is above water.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Geographically, it's latitude and longitude. Naming is political, not geography.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Geography also describes features, like islands. These islands are named the British isles.

Youre talking about coordinates for location, not geography.

Naming can be political, but is not inherently so.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Naming is ownership, unless it is describing geography like islands.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It does, especially given the name predates the country by 2-3 thousand years; it's not exactly optimal but in reality "These Islands" is the only alternative and something is needed to refer to them from outside the islands.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Except it was a politicised term used by an occupying force to strengthen their claim over our lands. Apologies if the suffering of our people, decimation of our language and culture and not to mention crippling genocide should be tolerated by use because "British and Irish and isles" is too wordy for you.

Ill take south eastern icelandic archipelago if you would prefer.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It wasn't, however the association with Great Britain is undeniable, especially when Lesser Britain doesn't even refer to Ireland any more (in Roman times it did), but Brittany, however "British Isles" was in use by the Greeks (at least Prettanic Isles) before even that - well before the union of England and Scotland, never mind Ireland's conquest.

Personally I'm happy with Atlantic Isles/Islands/Archipelago as I agree the term isn't great due to the implicit association, but it's not like it was something just made up by colonists.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I didnt say it was created by colonists, it was however pushed as a term to be used to strengthen the view in eyebof the public, this was a specific policy noted by Churchill.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 4 months ago

I see no problem I'm enjoying my seaside property. Although Coventry also survives so it's not all roses.

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Feel like this would be a little more legible with slightly less towns on it. Can barely see the old borders there are so many names everywhere.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's extremely high resolution, just have to zoom in. Anyway the town's useful because you can't really work out where anything is otherwise.

Although I've got to admit I'm not quite sure why they have tiny villages on there it's useful but I'm not quite sure why the decision was made.

[–] ag_roberston_author@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, sorry, that's what I meant. I don't really know the difference between a town and a tiny village I just meant there are way too many names.

Could've done with a few less to make it a bit clearer to read.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What if Dutch and Norwegian dikes and canals were combined with Hong Kong style architecture - but everyone had British, Irish and Scottish citizenships

[EDIT: My misspelling was ghhheeeey]

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if Dutch and Norwegian dykes and canals were combined

I'm really not sure how lesbians are going to help.

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They're famously good at DIY, especially plumbing.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Norwegian dykes and canals

I'm confused, how is Norway connected to those kind of constructions?

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

Maybe global warming isn't so bad after all.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 4 months ago

Oh neat, I have a book by the creator of this but had no idea about their website

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 4 months ago

I saw a timelapse of continental movement once. Europe is basically what polynesia or similiar areas would look like if they were a few 100m higher.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 4 months ago

That’s some nice farmland you have. Be a shame if something happened to it.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

They forgot the Netherlands

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Oh shit. My home is underwater. :(

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)