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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 151 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That should be enough to worry anybody.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

From the guy who said 640Kb is enough for anyone..

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[–] teletext@reddthat.com 128 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.

The final solution the AI comes up with: Cut the power of the poor, euthanize the old and weak.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If it were actually AI I might have some faith.

This isn't a neural net processor, not a learning computer. It's a fucking mechanical Turk. A bad one.

What he's talking about isn't capable of deriving new ideas. It's just going to spit out shit it's seen already.

The library of Babel is just as likely to give us the answers he's talking about. More likely maybe because it's at least already written down.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

I wonder if all this is to burn enough energy to make ignorant people believe that we have AI. And then use that AI as a justification of the existing order of things, the same way "civil contract" is. That it's not really technical, but rather a very big and expensive propaganda campaign for abolishing democracies.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Wow, that is so dumb. I saw some crack pot dude trying to solve unsolved physics problems by using prompts like "imagine you are Einstein, then how would you solve: ...". Good to see he is not alone, but has Bill fucking Gates with similarly dumb AI takes.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 4 months ago

And make paperclips.

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dead wrong. AI is not as reliable as their makers would like to believe. AI is more likely to adopt all the flaws of humanity than make anything “better.” A subjective term.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

It's a text generator. All these people, were they to live in Antiquity, would jump ship to ship trying to visit every oracle and prophet in the Mediterranean asking questions about universe and seeking deep meaning in short texts of the Chinese fortune cookie kind.

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

640kW should be enough for anyone.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 71 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Bill Gates says the massive power draw required for AI processing is nothing to worry about as AI will ultimately identify ways to help cut power consumption and drive the transition to sustainable energy.

We already know how

[–] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is one of the many things that annoys me about AI discourse.

"We can use it to solve climate change!"

We already technically know how to solve climate change, but politics makes doing that impossible.

And, no, AI can't "fix" politics. We're going to have to figure that out by ourselves.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Climate scientists: "do these things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"
AI developers: create AI
Climate scientists: "AI is drawing massive power accelerating climate change, we need to stop that"
Everyone: "but it can tell us how to fix climate change so it's going to be okay!"
AI climate model: "do these same things to fix climate change"
Everyone: "but that's HAAARD and I don't wanna!"

Yeah, I can't see any way this could possibly fail...

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[–] Contravariant@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

In a way AI refusing to recommend using so much computing power on LLMs could well be the first sign of actual intelligence.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ai told my power company to tell us to stop using energy during the day beucase ai needs the power to do the power co.pqnies jobs

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So if we light the planet on fire to fuel the AI, the AI will then tell us how to put the fire out.

Okay sure, but how about we just... don't do any of that?

[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The AI solution will be to stop producing food. That would save enormous amounts of energy.

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[–] Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well as long as Bill says it's cool, I guess I don't have to form my own opinion

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We should at least hear what Ja Rule has to say

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[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

Breaking: Rich tech guy thinks that the energy draw from rich tech projects is nothing to worry about.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago

Mr anti climate change says not to worry when it benefits him.

Fuck bill gates, fucking nepo-baby

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 months ago

Bill Gates shouldn't worry about people wanting to make a tent from his skin.

[–] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 33 points 4 months ago

Oh, gotcha. So crypto mining is bad, because he can't make money off of it. But AI is just fine, because he can make tons of money off of it. I understand now. Makes perfect sense.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 months ago

Can I worry about the fact the most serious AI's are owned by large companies, and that they are being taught to replace artists, writers and creatives?

What a sad fucking dystopia we live in.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago

Ricky says Bill Gates needs to shut the fuck up. You have thousands of times more money than any human will ever need leave the rest of us alone you fucking demon.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Of all the celebrity billionaire parasites this one is the one I hate the most. At least Elon and Bezos has the decency to show us what scumbags they are... they don't call Gates "No.1 Sugar Daddy To The PR industry" for nothing.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago
[–] yardy_sardley@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Alright, but if I end up getting stuffed in a goo-filled pod so the AI can suck my energy out through a massive plug in the back of my head, I'm gonna be pretty upset.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It's not going to be in the back of your head.

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[–] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay thanks Bill, I won’t.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rich billionaire twat who owns a shitload of Microsoft shares says AI is good, don't let the bubble burst. More at ten.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget about him spending time on Epstein’s island with a bunch of underage girls.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or how the Gates foundation fought for the Oxford COVID vaccine NOT to be open sourced, and instead sold for profit, so that it wouldn't undermine his pharma stocks.

Oxford university had previously secured funding from the UK gov to develop the vaccine under the expectation they open source it so that poorer countries would have greater vaccine access and the rollout could be faster.

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fuck it. Gun it at the brick wall. Jerry's rigging up an emergency break as we speak. Don't mind that the last piece to said break may be missing.

- Man who will probably die before we hit the wall

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Oh Gates what a lovely altruistic human billionaire.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 15 points 4 months ago

I say shut up.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago

If this isn't the most cynical message forum then I don't know what is.

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, classic tech solutionism.

"No need to be frugal, the tech will evolve and fix the causes of climate change!"

We need a solution right now, not in a decade, dumb ass. So frugality is the answer.

[–] unlawfulbooger@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

Exactly

To quote the post more specifically:

Even as our species destroys its only home, we assume that the solutions to climate change must lie in technology, without stopping to examine the role that this very attitude has played in the crisis.

This is so deeply ingrained in our social consciousness that, when there is a new impressive technology, we assume that it must be here to solve one of our big problems. As the AI hype quickens the pace of our ecological devastation, we're so dazzled by the technology that there is actual debate in supposedly serious publications as to whether AI is going to save us from climate change, despite all evidence pointing to the contrary.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Suddenly I'm worried about AI's energy draw. "6 percent of global electricity" is not a small amount of electricity.

[–] maxinstuff@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Iceland figured this out some years ago, and now they make heaps exporting computing power to international AI compute buyers.

They do it with a naturally cold climate, and loads of geo-thermal power.

[–] li10@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

Ah, okay, thanks Bill 👍

[–] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wish to live in a world where the media doesn't consist of articles about how some rich or famous person says or thinks something.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

Are we absolutely sure it's real Bill Gates and not Robot Bill Gates? I mean he's had bad takes before but maybe it's best to be sure?

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

While shooing folks away from a curtained-off area.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They gonna be hawking these cliff notes machines even as the last breathable air disappears.

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