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“We are in dire need of workers, so there is a lot of fear from across the state ... that this new law will actually be devastating."

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[–] Rememo@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Someone needs to remind DeSatan that he is not Native American, and thus he owes his very existence to immigrants. Maybe his ancestors should have been kicked out of America.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

What? I'm sure DeSantis is an old Cherokee name!

[–] OasissisaO@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is this the "find out" part?

I think this is the "find out" part.

[–] dethb0y@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The best part will be when they find out that local floridians absolutely will not work for the same wages, and in many cases any wage, for the same labor. Similar actions in the past have left crops rotting in the fields because no one wants to harvest them. This incident in california comes to mind although of course that was nowhere near as harsh...

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The sad thing is, the more likely "fix" for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Like, I love seeing Desantis hoisted by his own petard here, but also... it should not be legal to exploit undocumented workers. If these workers are necessary to make the economy function, something is wrong with the economy. Which is definitely true for the US agricultural economy.

Much like with Reedy Creek, he's doing the right thing in the stupidest way possible and for the absolutely wrong reasons.

[–] Deref@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Legalizing immigrants means they can't get deported for fighting back or trying to quit. And having no choice is the #1 requirement for exploitation.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

The sad thing is, the more likely “fix” for this will just be legalizing this insane system of unfairly and illegally-paid migrant workers rather than forcing the ag businesses to offer fair compensation.

Or they'll use prisoners.

[–] spaysi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Oh looky there, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions! 🫣I’m only worried about all that food that will rot in the fields, Florida farms feed a lot of people… good for the immigrant workers saying F this and leaving the state though, more power to them and I hope they all find better alternative employment in more friendly parts of the country.

[–] thinkmcflythink@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Beowulf@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Perhaps the best thing would be to say "illegal immigrants"

The majority of legal immigrants know the struggle to become citizens, but also don't want to feel like they wasted time because of what's happening currently.

"You want to come to the United States? Go for it, just do it by the book"

[–] BrerChicken@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as an "illegal immigrant" in this country. It is not illegal to be in the US without papers, no matter if you entered legally or not. And "entering legally" means going through a checkpoint. You have to do that regardless of whether you're a citizen or not. Plenty of undocumented immigrants enter legally and then overstay their visa, which is not a crime in the US. It's literally not part of the criminal code.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Er, people absolutely do enter through non-checkpoints. And it is a crime, though IIRC it’s a misdemeanor. At least argue in good faith.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

"Do it by the book" when your life is in danger is supposed to be coming to the border and requesting asylum. And these days, that means "fuck you, go back and die."

[–] henfredemars@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

No one could have predicted this /s

This fucking nerd

[–] jray4559@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To be frank, I think this is a good thing. Maybe working conditions will improve. Leftists always say with businesses that pay bad wages "If raising your employee pay to a living wage would kill your business, it didn't deserve to exist in the first place."

That should apply to everyone.

Keeping this system of exploitation (which is what hiring undocumented immigrants is) is an affront to humanity. It's sad that this is even tolerated. I mean, DeSantis is a hack who hates freedom and should not become president, but this is one of his few moves I (mostly) agree with.

[–] Phat_Albert@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Being forced to pay competitive wages would be a major benefit to poor/uneducated workers and their families.

I always love the line, “Americans won’t do X kind of labor.”

Nope, not for $3/hr. Working in a field for $30/hr? I suspect there would be little difficulty hiring.

[–] jray4559@lemmy.fmhy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Definitely. Hell, maybe if food started to rot on the vine, we'd get a WWII-style sense of community back. Americans were (mostly) Americans first, political camps second when it was wartime. And saving our nation from (supposed) starvation I think would bring lots and lots together. Something this country damn well needs with how isolated we are as people.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago

"Uninspired by the recruiting call, independent we stand, independent we fall."