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[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Stupid tankie bitches couldn't even make I more smarter

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Regulation = harder to start business

to start a business to compete with Samsung you would need a massive amount of capital on the order of 100 billion dollars, regulation is not the primary barrier. these people think eliminating the health department will turn the local food truck into a multinational instead of giving everyone diarrhea

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Yes, thank you. Law is not the reason I haven't started a business, it's money.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

I like how accidentally honest this person is. They directly say not owning a business is tantamount to slavery. They're blindly stumbling into the capitalist tendency for wealth to centralize and interpreting it as a Marxist plot to destroy capitalism, rather than the system following its own logic.

[–] SeducingCamel@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no interest in starting a business, why do they think that's the endgame for the human experience?

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally their dream world is one where everyone is petite bourgeois with various degrees of success. They basically want to live in the late feudal era.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The part they never seem to mention in their thinly-veiled-greed “everyone will be a lord” bullshit is that a whole lotta people gotta be serfs.

This is such an obvious fact that I can only imagine they are well aware of it and are banking on their moron followers and bootlickers being such supreme slack-jawed imbeciles that they don’t notice.

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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

when you can tell by the number of typos how close they are to shrivel and shrink into a corncob corn-man-khrush dril

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This lib is lucky, I tried starting a “lib decapitation business” but apparently that’s against a whole bunch of regulations so they won’t let me.

I’ll get you next time liberal!

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

"I dare you to name one Marxist US politician" would be my reply

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joesph “Robinette” Stalin Brandon. Mic drop, tankoid

[–] coderade@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a Marxist-Leninist-Bidenist, all hail dark Brandon

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

biden-leftist I need not your praise, only your service. Now go commit an adventurism, Jack!

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagining a timeline where after every time a fascist does a mass shooting, Brandon gives out pre-emptive pardons to anyone who murders a republican for the next week.

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[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The most left candidate in recent history who ever came close to winning the presidency, while no Marxist, seems like he's well off enough but nowhere near as rich as any other presidential candidate.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're talking about Bernie, I feel like he's wealthy like a 1950s auto worker, which isn't horrible. There are so many vacation cabins owned by working class families in Michigan.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of American discussion about economics only makes sense if you imagine yourself as a small to medium business owner who is materially comfortable, but is struggling to expand their wealth into the millionaire/billionaire range. You can only interpret taxation as an unfair obstacle designed by the even wealthier class above you. You have no sympathy for the lower strata, because they're just instruments for you. Your main political concern isn't liberation, because you're already liberated. The main concern is psychological comfort and becoming even more massively rich.

So while you're focused on your stupid ski dealership or construction business, you're watching all these finance guys do laps around you. And since you're a pig brained American, the fact that you haven't gained billionaire status yet is because of Marxist taxation laws or billionaire collusion to make everyone but them into proletariat.

That's the real crux of it I think. American small business dipshits do feel a threat they'll become working class, or might have to actually work for the first time in their life, and to them this is the same threat as the most cartoon villain version of communism. Any threat to their comfort or power is interpreted as slavery. It's why these hogs are the ideological base for fascism.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I find this highly accurate as that is the persona of all those viewpoints. Maybe that's even real people, but it's who the ideas are targeted at.

[–] Twink@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TIL I'm poor because I'm not Marxist enough. NOOOOO

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fact: Billionaires are so rare because they are the only people who were able to finish all three volumes of Das Kapital.

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[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

He’s calling us liberals

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

name one Marxist politicians who isn't rich

sankara-salute

lula-bars

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I often hear people say that at the time of Stalin's death, his personal possessions basically amounted to 3 or 4 coats and misc clothing, his pipe, some books, and whatever was in his pockets.

Is anyone able to confirm or deny that, ideally with a source?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He had like 12 pairs of pants. He does seem like the type of guy that would want some extra pants, just in case. I think he also had a lot of books. Somewhere there's a receipt listing his possessions when they were gathered after his death. It was modest.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His salary was 10,000 rubles per month and he paid 300 rubles to the party.

For reference a miner's salary was up to 8000 rubles. Minister's was around 5000 and professor or academic could make more than 10000.

He did make a great deal of money however from the books that he wrote. There is no exact information about how much he made for all of his books, but we do know he personally funded various prizes and awards: Stalin's Award for scientists, artists, and inventors. Each year he would pay 29 first prizes of 100000 rubles, 25 second prizes of 50000 rubles and 40 third prizes of 25000 rubles, which means that Stalin spent a grand total of 5150000 rubles every year as money prizes for his award.

Upon his death his locker was opened which had a bag with 200,000 rubles unspent in it, his relatives received access to his savings account which had an additional 30000, a car at the time was roughly 15000 rubles. He had nothing else.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Each year he would pay 29 first prizes of 100000 rubles, 25 second prizes of 50000 rubles and 40 third prizes of 25000 rubles, which means that Stalin spent a grand total of 5150000 rubles every year as money prizes for his award.

Ok wait so he was actually kind of loaded. That must be a lot of fucking money from books, damn.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

He wrote a lot of extremely popular works. I think the important thing here is that he didn't use any of it for property and he spent literally all of it on these awards.

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be skeptical of accounts like that. A lot of historical leaders would brag about having austere personal possessions, but that's only cuz the state furnished them with things to keep them comfortable, so no real need to have many personal possessions while in office.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

There's also President Diaz-Canel of Cuba. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the way a politician's salary works in Cuba is that they make the same salary as the last job they had, meaning he makes the same salary as a professor.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

This is your brain on the Libertarian model of politics.

I can understand where the climate change deniers are coming from. They are stuck with either the earth getting further irreversibly fucked and nothing is being done about it, or it is a handful of people who want to sell wind power plants and stop you from eating beef because they want to make you soy. The latter is a lot easier to handle if you manage to delude yourself into believing in it.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I challenge every person who sees this comment:

Deadass, name me one Marxist politician in the west. Tell me one person you’ve ever heard of who is an actual in office politician who is a Marxist.

I only know of ONE, and she’s a city counselor

[–] eatmyass@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Uh sorry sweaty, everyone to the left of Reagan is a marxist

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I only know of ONE, and she’s a city counselor

lmao I was thinking of Kshama too

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

proving that even trots can be part of our big tent

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that was just to pick up one long legged communist when he was in college it doesn't count

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[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would, with a completely straight face, start listing every Democrat who's regularly in the news.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

yeah I know...

I know someone who was freaking out about Biden winning- because Kamala is a communist

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[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tfw the poster correctly recognizes that reduced consumption to combat climate change will be forced on the working classes only but he blames it on communism.

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[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I DARE you.

[–] Ew0@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A few brain cells died reading this.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's almost like Keynes' model is built on top of Classical economist and therefore has some ''''Marxist'''' concepts

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't name a marxist politician from my country, NOR can I name a politician who isn't corruptly rich.

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I can name a couple million from China.

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