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comrades, the Protracted People’s War against the liberal hive and haven for bigoted chasers that is lemmy.blahaj.zone has succeeded! blahaj has fallen! or at least fallen off.

really tho, i just checked in on their site to see how its been since defederating. that was only 3 days ago btw! it feels like its been a week lol. their daily user count has fallen by over 1/6th since defed. and while this could be attributed to less traffic during the work week, the posting situation there is abysmal. in the past 24 hours, 78% of the posts came from c/196, making it difficult to tell that their instance is a dedicated queer space. and while they have gained ~30 users since defederation, we have gained over 200! its pretty much just 196 at this point.

while its sad to see a queer space fail, i suspect its for the best. i hope all the anti-capitalists there find their way here, as many already have. especially the trans folk there, its genuinely sad that they feel like they have to accept chasers in their space in order to have a community that accepts them. that is the difference between liberal tolerance and socialist liberation— tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality. may all the blahaj gender diverse who oppose capitalism find their way to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns!!!!

stuff like this are the best “dunks” the 196 reactionaries can manage: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/2042262

pathetic

this meme is weak and displays their ignorance. you cant have a conversation with ppl like the OP. they will just bombard you with thought-terminating cliches. gulag gulag! Uyghurs! hologramodor! no food! purges! NKVD KGB Stasi! free Tibet so they can have their wholesome slaves again! Taiwan is a legitimate state!

countless hexbears would be willing and even enthusiastic to have a good faith, respectful, nuanced discussion about these topics with them. but they dont want that. they want to roll in their own shit like a pig with massive balls. the good ones will find us, or other socialist spaces. but for such a small instance, there are too many scratched and soon-to-be scratched liberals for us to do any good with federation.

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 146 points 1 year ago (4 children)

hey its me i came here because of the blahaj defed

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 104 points 1 year ago (3 children)

welcome home comrade cat-trans

there are many such cases. a bunch of blahaj users were saying that after defed a bunch of LGBTQ hexbear users would jump ship in favor of blahaj. unsurprisingly, the opposite has happened

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't imagine anyone who's gotten used to the culture here leaving.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I for one would like to move from the site where people post to the site where there are no posts

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Posters are supposed to move from the area with the highest level of posting density to the lowest - it's just physics

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago
[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

We just can't stop collecting wins.

hexbear-chapochat

Welcome .

One of us one of us

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 105 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the op of that 196 thread:

First, I’m not a liberal.
Second, it’s fucking shitty that liberal politicians only really give a shit about queer people when it’s convenient. Though your version literally makes no sense because the neoliberal isn’t throwing them in a gulag like, say, Stalin did. Their inaction towards injustice is bad but you’re saying it’s as bad as perpetrating the injustice itself which is just stupid.
Third, this is a tankie-free subreddit, so fuck off.

subreddit

michael-laugh

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the Capitalist USA, it was illegal to be LGBT+ until 2003 (2015 if you count gay marriage being illegal) and several states are now beginning to recriminalize it.

Until the late 2000s' (and even after in some cases) gay clubs and other LGBT+ spaces would be raided by police, brutally arresting and killing LGBT+ people.

Some of the largest news outlets in America are allowed to spead queerphobic propaganda and accuse trans people of grooming and other lies without punishment.

After Russia became capitalist in the 90s', LGBT+ rights have only gotten worse under capitalism, not better.

So where is your "Fuck capitalists" banner, 196?

But please, tell me how evil and scary Stalin was while your own anti-communist utopia rolls back its LGBT+ protections it's only had for last 10 or so years, if you can even call them real protections, Queers have never been truly safe in the streets of the US.

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still remember that Orlando mass shooting of the gay nightclub...

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

I remember being at a nightclub with my bf while reading about it doomjak

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So if you had a button that says “kill all fascists,” and you just sit there watching fascists kill minorities instead of pressing the button, you’re not as bad as the fascists?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might as well be a full communism button tbh

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

This is genuinely not what I want to see and I have no idea why Ada is being so stubborn about 196. They are turning their queer space into a chaser meme space, and eliminating all the potential it had.

On the offchance that you're reading this, it's really not too late to fix this Ada you just need to bin off that problematic mod and people here would genuinely make the effort to turn the situation around. People want you to make the right decision and will instantly turn around their opinion if it occurs, you are correct that cooperation is better for both spaces, shit like this is so easily resolved.

[–] Omniraptor@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would ada be reading posts on here. Hexbear defederated from them not the reverse. She thinks scolding the shitty 196 mod a bit is adequate, you don't (I don't either which is why I moved over). In this situation we're going to stay defederated.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because someone might show it to her I dunno, when your name is dropped somewhere people tend to be like "hey they're talking about you [here]" in chat groups etc. That's why it's an off-chance.

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[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know why I keep my old blahaj account. Sometimes I visit there and then get bombarded by the libposting of lemmy.world and [local] being filled with just 196.

But I'm infinitely happier now that I made the switch here. :D

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

welcome home comrade hexbear-non-binary

enjoy ur stay! and always combat liberalism

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[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

New Hexbear goal: to become the largest LGBTQ+ friendly space on the internet

[–] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] kristina@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

more general purpose communities on reddit and twitter and facebook. the issue of course is those sites are ran by queerphobic ideologues/megacorps, so that flavors all interactions

there arent really any large anticorporate lgbt spaces. there are some niche trans forums that are mostly about healthcare access (and usually only for transfems), thats probably the biggest stuff. our main competitor(?) i guess is raddle.me in regards to their /r/traa community. they have 4k subscribers and 2k submissions, which given our current rate of development on c/traa over 6 years (how long raddle traa has existed) we're talking 30k subs in a year and about 9,680 posts, assuming we keep our rate the same, which is unlikely but more likely here due to the fediverse.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Vietnam too is in process of implementing LGBT Friendly laws like Cuba. If USSR were here today it would be doing the same instead of what we have today in Eastern Europe/Russia.

U.S. too didn't have legal gay marriage until 2015. So maybe they should look at themselves in the mirror instead of shitting on a country which hasn't existed for over three decades.

Are they "slava ukraini so-true " people? Because, Ukraine is just as unfriendly towards LGBTQ as Russia is.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

tbf russia did pass a trans genocide law recently. but i used to help trans refugees leave ukraine before the war even started in 2014, it is not good there for queer people, at all, and anyone who says otherwise is a giant piece of shit

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The cruel dictatorship at blahaj.zone has cut its citizens off from vital posting supplies. Citizens are forced to turn to inferior domestic posts or risk the black market and ostracism. Soon we will be eating the dead. Please Hexbear, my people yearn for freedom.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't really want to create another thread about their crappy instance, so I'll just add this as a comment here instead:

Is Azov Neo-Nazi? CW: Fascist apologia for a neonazi paramilitary.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

oh god, pass the eye bleach! what is is with liberals and whitewashing nazis?

[–] iie@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i'll add another link to the pile lol

Guessing game: Russia's moon mission crashed. Whose fault is it?

some of the commenters act like Russia is still communist, it's weird.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

feddit.de user with three thunderbolts

Definitely not sus

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

more proof behind the pudding that not all trans/queer spaces are safe for trans and queer people. sentiment can be good, but you need to back it up with tanks capabara-tank

queer lives are not up for debate, ban the fuck out of everyone who disagrees

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have gotten over 196... new users

Looks like they can't blå as haj as we can.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

their daily user count has fallen by over 1/6th since defed. and while this could be attributed to less traffic during the work week, the posting situation there is abysmal.

Luckily everyone here is white, American, millionaires, and don’t have any real world experience, so we can just chill and post all day while the dirty proletariat slave away at the Atlantic Council and Nancy Pelosi’s morning briefings

[–] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

tolerance allows for objectification and marginalization, while liberation demands dignity and equality

trans-heart

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

That post what-the-hell

Are they just being purposefully ignorant about what Cuba and Vietnam have been doing?

[–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Frankly remarkable projection there, given that it's the US that backs coups to overthrow elected socialist leaders and install fascist dictators like Pinochet or Armas.

They're so confused and arrogantly uninformed. They know a couple of catchphrases and just put them together like madlibs to form their arguments.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

LGBT liberals when asked if the west should update constitutions to be inclusive and diverse like Cuba’s:

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[–] build_a_bear_group@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Operation IKEA Freedom is commencing according to plan cat-trans transshork-happy hexbear-trans

mission-accomplished mission-accomplished-1 mission-accomplished-2 mission-accomplished

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who cares? They made their decision, we made ours. Let them wallow with their 10 year old memes

i simply do not think of them

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