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Vegan hotdogs // Veggie "Completo Italiano" (aggregatet.org)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by tomas@aggregatet.org to c/foodporn@lemmy.world

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Although it does not mention any vegan variation, there is a wikipedia article about the "completos".

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 6 months ago (9 children)

What about the mayo on the hotdog?

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[–] Reminds_Me_Of_Reddit@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Mayonnaise?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Speaking of which, and I’m sure this is the wrong place but does anyone know how to cook halloumi? I just cooked some on the smoker with a pile of veggies and it always turns out rubbery. What am I doing wrong?

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Unless that sausage has a preferable texture or seasoning profile I feel like almost any variety of beans would be a welcome addition or replacement. Like to me it looks like it is supposed to have refried black beans.

Or: vegan blackbean based sausage links which I remember back from the era I lived with vegans.

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de -2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

That's a sandwich.

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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee -4 points 6 months ago

It tastes the same if you close your eyes.

[+] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world -42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (30 children)

Stop trying to mimic meat products, it's a losing battle and will always be inferior. Stop trying to fit foods into a meat "alternative" product that just sucks in comparison to the original, but you try to justify as being "almost the same", it's never even close. It's easily the main reason so many people won't even consider vegan options, they're constantly being lied to and resent that.

Embrace the ingredients and use them in ways that actually make sense. You don't need to replace meat products for people to try an alternative diet, you just need to have other good options. Many vegan restaurants have absolutely delicious and filling food, it's never the options that try to replace a burger though. It's the foods designed from the ground up to be vegan and embracing what the ingredients actually are.

Edit: What a surprise, down voted by the vegan brigade refusing to accept any sort of criticism that their replacements usually suck. Coming to defend poor imitations instead of just acknowledging that some foods don't need to be replaced, and that attempting to do so just steers people away from alternatives entirely.

I never said that alternatives weren't good. In fact I said the exact opposite. That the alternatives need to be treated as their own thing, not a replacement for a meat product. But the knee jerk reaction to downvote anything perceives as anti-vegan is just too strong apparently. And you all wonder why people make fun of the vegan culture. It's almost as bad as Linux fanboys or League of Legends players.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

OK dad

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I know you're going to be downvoted, but you really underestimate how good hot dogs are at a barbecue.

Serving people salads at a grill outing is a way to lose friends, giving them vegan hot dogs without telling them is a way for them to consider eating less meat. C:

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 3 points 6 months ago

It’s always some form of deception.

Just be fucking real.

I’ve had excellent vegan food and no one ever tried to trick me into it.

That’s a good way to lose friends.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Deception is definitely the best way to do things. Don't want to actually let people know what they're eating of course.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Never ask what the hot dog is made of :>

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Point A: never, ever whine about votes. It's lame as fuck. You take the downs and the ups and whining about the downs, or crowing about the ups is just bullshit.

PointB: I agree with the basics of what you said, but you miss a huge factor. Read on if interested.

I agree wholeheartedly that any commer product throwing vegan in front of a word for another food is bullshit. I even agree that the path to good vegan foods is abandoning the idea that meat needs replacing when there's entire cuisines that offer amazing food built around non meat, non animal sources.

It is also important to note that not only am I not vegan, I troll vegans occasionally by calling them religious zealots (because the ones that you run into are lol. The nice ones just live their lives and don't bother anyone.)

However, unless a person is raised without exposure to meat based foods, the truth is that meat is yummy, and a lot of foods that we take for granted and love are either meat based, or contain animal products.

This means that new vegans are trying to figure out how to change their entire life, and need help getting there. And, even as they learn more about plant based diets, they'll be having people they love that still eat meat, and substitutes become a form of good manners. Having substitutes isn't a bad thing. Again, I make fun of the jerk vegans, but being able to choose what kind of ingredients go into what I'm eating is a huge plus.

But how is anyone supposed to run searches for recipes without the word vegan being involved? "Non animal product sausages" is going to bring back wildly different hits than "vegan hotdogs".

The vegans I know (and cook vegan food for) did eventually transition away from a reliance on "replacement" dishes. But it's a process and it's one that means they'll miss some of their old favorites unless they do make these kind of things.

Point C: dude, don't rub your pet peeves on other people. It's rude.

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