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Saw a comrade post this as a response in the Mousolini dunk thread, that become a dunk thread on an annoying lib calling us tankies lol.

Thought this was really insightful, and from a different angle than what i usually see as the rascist connotations of "tankie" and of western left anti-communism, and thought it deserved its own thread. Particularly, since the influx of western anti-cummunist takes we've been dealing with recently.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

@kr4ster@programming.dev

I saw you reported this with the reason: Hexbear. Do you know where you are or who you are reporting this to?.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait for real????

michael-laugh reporting Hexbears for posting on Hexbear!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The internet equivalent of Karens calling the cops on black people having a BBQ in the park.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Except when they do that the cops don't show up and ridicule them instead of arresting said black people.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mods calling out nonsense reports is amazing and I hope it never stops

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Now normally I think posting about reports is in bad form as they should be private to an extent but this was just too funny not to share.

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

Triggered by our existence. This rules

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The worst thing is that with how federation works, they're just creating more work for their own instances mods with bs reports, as they see them too. Poor mods at the programming Lemmy wondering wtf is going on here lol.

[–] fitterr@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we need the oppenheimer trial yelling scene as emotes

[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Please don't meme oppenheimer scenes I don't want to watch it sadness

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a good fucking take and plays into the point I keep making of the nationalist/internationalist issue surrounding this mess. It definitely has a nationalist component I'm completely with @axont@hexbear.net on this.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah I've been trying to see the term "tankie" as an obfuscated way of saying "traitor" recently. It's not a word that applies to people actually from socialist countries most of the time, it's what someone from the imperial core gets called if they express admiration for the scary foreign places.

Also hello everyone! Sorry I'm not used to attention like this thread lol

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I'd appreciate being called a traitor straight up so I can respond gigachad-hd

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tankie is just the new authoritarian, redfash or Stalinist. I think being called a patsoc is probably going to replace it sooner rather than later.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tankie itself is decades old. It was initially used by British Trotskyites to refer to other British communists who were in favor of the USSR using tanks to quell the 1956 Hungarian uprising.

Personally I think tankie will just get replaced with being called a communist/commie/pinko again. I think we only have a few more years until western liberals realize they're not actually socialists and begin outright identifying as willing capitalist subjects on the side of imperialism.

Being called a communist will carry with it the implication that you're a traitor to western civilization or whatever. The nationalist brainwork will become explicit rather than hidden under layers.

Derogatory political terms don't like having nuance. Tankie is currently too nuanced. It's used to mean "I'm a socialist but not like those scary, other socialists who like bad countries like China." Derogatory political terms just want to mean "bad thing"

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is a better elaboration on that post I made on that 196 thread that got removed and I presume kicked off this whole discussion.

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[–] Finger@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago

I wear tankie as a badge of honor honestly. If someone calls me a tankie it's usually because they're already owned and they've run out of steam. They call me a tankie because they've already lost. It's at that moment that they think they've taken back the upper hand but it's all a ruse. They fell for it. They left themselves open. And that's when you hit em with the PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] Twink@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have two tank tops. I want more but they're so randomly sized. One M-L squeezes me too tightly, another M is so loose it's like a parachute. I do like tank tops under open button ups. Does tankie mean you like tank tops? I guess I'm one hella of a tankie then. ;3

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're a Twinkie Tankie, one of the best kinds of tankie

[–] Twink@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Search results show twinkies are something full of cream. I'm flattered, but I merely wish that was me! pingu-horny

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Hexbear bout to turn into a Hostess factory if the vanguard doesnt come quick

Don't forget shelf stable and radiation resistant!

You're thinking of tank bottoms, slightly different

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

There are already racialized versions of political slurs for Chinese and Russians. Anyone who professes a positive opinion of China, no matter how true or mild, is a "Wumao" and the same for Russia is a "Vatnik".

Both can also be "bots" because no human could ever think well of those places. Also probably projection for the fact that much of this sentiment is probably coming from a huge US astroturfing operation operating out of Elgin Airforce Base.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 year ago

I'm sick of lemmy.world trying to act like they understand a global picture of the world. Fucking brainwash runs deep

[–] mazdak@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

‘Tankie’ has been somewhat effective in that its associated Marxists with right wing Russian nationalists and weirdo online cults like ‘maga-communism’. This doesn’t matter because reddit doesn’t matter, but if it somehow makes the jump to mainstream consciousness it could potentially be damaging. With increasing crises and declining living standards more people are going to be looking for alternative narratives to the one liberals offer. If Marxism is associated with social conservatism in particular, most people won’t give it a second look.

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

The hammer and sickle already is

[–] axont@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

You shoulda been tagged. gaddafi-stern

[–] uralsolo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excuse me, I believe the preferred nomenclature is "People of Tank".

[–] PeoplesRepublicOfNewEngland@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the venn diagram of internet armored vehicle enjoyers and NAFO idiots is basically a circle.

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[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Get out the technical chart folks it's time for a struggle

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

I had Cassandraed the other day in the megathread.

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