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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

Remember, kids - you're not a Banderite nationalist unless you're from the Banderite region of Galacia. Anything else is just sparkling fascism.

"There aren't any fascist party members in the rada!" Yeah well there aren't any (official) fascist party members in the US congress and look how much good that's done.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I remember when Anders Breivik murdered 70 people here in Norway.

That was only made possible by The Knight Templars party holding a majority of seats in our parliament.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The Knight Templars party

Sarcasm or straight? I'm not familiar with the political party comp at that period in time and I'm not sure how to look it up.

That was such an awful moment.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Sarcasm. Breivik refered to himself as a Knight Templar in his manifesto, so following the lib logic of "the only way Ukrainian fascists could do anything at all was if there was a bunch of fascists in the Rada", there clearly must have been knight templars in the Norwegian parliament.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Gotcha. You make a good point.

[-] Barabas@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

That is just Fremskrittspartiet.

But no, there is no Templar party in Norway. Breivik claimed to be a crusader etc though.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

If America is racist, why did it vote for a black President? thonk

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Boris wasn't a western puppet as he was a Russian nationalist.

The West using nationalists as puppets? Inconceivable! inconceivable

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

U N P O S S I B L E

[-] camaron30@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Some random podcaster apparently talked about russia and it made them mad.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

I got as far as "Boris wasn't a western puppet"

[-] edge@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

the reason NATO expanded is because Russia invaded old USSR land. The Chechen war which proved NATO still needed to exist.

Chechnya is and was part of Russia the whole time. How does Russia stopping separatists in its own borders prove the need for NATO? Do we need a bloc against Ukraine since they invaded their separatist regions?

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have the time or patience to go through all of these, but the second one is one that really pisses me off. The US-Soviet diplomatic relationship (and frankly most diplomatic relationships) was based on handshake deals and trusting each others word. There was no formal deal granting NATO passage across East Germany to access West Berlin, for instance. So when the US told the Soviets that they wouldn't expand West, the Soviets had historical reasons to think that didn't need to be written down, because that was business as usual. Not that a written agreement would have been worth anything anyways, as the value of the promise of a NATO liberal is equivalent to that of a used car salesman.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

less than 900 members

Eat my entire ass

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

(also ignore that major governmental figures have publicly called for a crusade against semites).

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