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Over the years I have self-hosted a ton of stuff for people on the internet. So much, in fact, that I started a little non-profit to sort of make it "more official". I love to help people, and people are truly grateful when I set something up for them. So I continue to do it. That being said, it can get expensive.

Funding is the biggest risk we face, as users, if we want to see the fediverse be a good long-term solution. Lemmy instances, be that .world or otherwise, do not have VCs backing them that can burn money for years on end like other tech startups. They are either able to pay for the services, or they don't exist.

So, I implore you: please consider donating to any of the fediverse instances that you enjoy. Shifting the internet's collective mindset towards paying for the social services we use could really be the beginning of something special.

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[–] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Done…one more drop in a bucket we might all come to treasure.

So, you know, a nice bucket. With like a handle on it. A sturdy one. Also, a quality bucket made of sturdy material and with sufficient capacity. That kind.

[–] BingoBangoBongo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Kate from Mysterious Benedict Society approves this metaphor.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tangentially related, but is there an effort underway to archive fediverse content? I think the danger of federation is the loss of a valuable knowledge base if an instance goes offline.

[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's my biggest fear too. And even with archiving if you spend all that time growing a community and the instance just dies then you have to rebuild the community from scratch on a different server. It seems oddly risky because without secured funding who knows which instances might die and when.

I think long term there might need to be some form of revenue from the site just to ensure needs are met and incentivize devs/admins to stick with it. But maybe the donations will surprise me and things will go smooth like wikipedia.

[–] Space_Can@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By definition, a copy of every post, comment, community, and user profile exists on every instance that federates with another instance. Data preservation should be trivial, even without a proper archive.

I could imagine a scenario where a popular instance owner goes rogue and brings down their server, only for the whole thing to be restored from federated copies by some other group.

[–] Whoresradish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I donate to lemmy net and mastadon world. I think donations will work in the short term, but in the long term a more sustainable model will need to be created. Hopefully a model that does not damage the integrity of Lemmy.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I did make a donation. Now they really need money to scale the servers to adjust to the big people influx.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Common courtesies are not meant to be discussed neither enforced -- but expected. If you aren't donating (right now), you are doing it wrong.

[–] aeternum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm only a lowly pensioner, but i donate to Ernest on kbin.social. It's a worthy cause, and i know that it goes to help run the site, so why not.