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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by sharkfucker420@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net
 

President Ebrahim Raisi and foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian of Iran have died in a helicopter crash. I'm sure this is mere coincidence of course

To be fair, the weather was incredibly bad and the helicopter wasn't in great condition but damn. The timing

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[โ€“] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago
[โ€“] Sebrof@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Right on time, and beyond parody

[โ€“] AnarchoCummunist@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

"Liberate" Noun - plunder, steal, Gr*pe, and pillage.

[โ€“] Weedian@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago

It's not even john bolton!

[โ€“] daniyeg@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

not for the "freedom" and "democracy" thr US will spread that's for sure

[โ€“] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure in like 5 years from now we'll learn the Mossad sabotaged the chopper.

[โ€“] culpritus@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Only the chopper with the most important people onboard crashes yea

[โ€“] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah well if Trump was president the Mossad would have killed the ayatollah too sweetie maybe-later-honey

[โ€“] pressurized@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

we've already been fed the "secret service agent's gun just went off lol and they blamed a guy because lolz"-style explanation in "sanctions killed him the heli parts sucked lolz"

i totally understand that maybe limiting production of military helicopters but it seems kind of far fetched it would result in poor maintenance on the heli carrying state leaders ๐Ÿค”

Honestly in this case I think the chopper just crashed. Never get into a helicopter. brace-dark-cowboy

[โ€“] emizeko@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

c'mon DPRK necromancers, do Iran a solid. primary contradiction

[โ€“] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

(I am still at the bargaining stage)

[โ€“] Rom@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

What's our consensus on this guy? I don't know much about him, but when the US State Department is saying shit like

"As Iran selects a new president, we reaffirm our support for the Iranian people and their struggle for human rights and fundamental freedoms,"

then he must have been doing something right.

[โ€“] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean they're all hardline Islamists so we critically support from the position of anti-imperialism but hope once the anti-imperial struggle is resolved (or even before then) there is struggle for greater rights for women/gays/etc. to which this person would be an obstacle. Of course rights for women and gays (except for some tokens in the upper classes to parade to the west) would be much worse in whatever imperial client regime is set up if these guys fall so it's a tough line to walk.

Should be noted there are areas where Iran is actually ahead of the west in women's rights, like the proportion of women in STEM is much higher there for example.

[โ€“] Bloobish@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

More or less it's another case of extreme critical support (i.e. the dudes sucks in so many categories except being opposed to the US imperialist project).

[โ€“] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

He was custodian at quds razavi. Which is the largest and oldest corporation in iran. It originally started as a shrine in the middle of nowhere about 12 centuries ago. If you search it you will find several dates for its founding because every other king gave them money in a new trust, but the organization is very old. Back then the big city in that general area was tus. Because the monks being the only ones able to provide protection and arbitrage, the city of mashad grew atound it. The monks got into all sorts of buissneses first catering to pilgrim hostels, grain trade, real state, and so on. Now their subsiduaries even make space ship fuel and parts.

But its ultimatley a charitable institution. It manages libraries, a university, provides comunity services, healthcare, etc.

So on the one hand he ran whats esentialy a zeibatsu, but on the other it is a corporation that has deep ties to its comunity and cares about its walfare. So his support should be from astan quds razavi, and so should his intersts. In that sense he is anti goverment; the main contradiction in iran rigth now is between the buding pmc class that wants a modern state, and various powers who like the autonomy they have, such as militias, boyads, bazaris, etc. Who are often able to act outside the executive. Interestingly Raisi was disliked by some iranian elites because he was of humble origines and not blood related to the board of trustees at razavi, they saw him getting the custodian job as him eating intruding in their turf.

Then he went to be the head of the judiciary. Was suposedly an anti corrupion guy, with mixed succes.

As president the most notable was some reform to the subsidy system, before some esentials like fuel and bread were subsidized by the state, wich resulted in smugling, so he liberalized the prizes and instead gave poor people a sort of ubi, to compenste.

Iran has one of the weakest executives in the world and he probably had more power as custodian than as president.

Overall not a bad guy, but not outstanding either.

[โ€“] Dolores@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago

wow i had no idea the old medieval charities would still be a thing in Iran, though 'islamic republic' might have been a clue lol

Way I see it is to critically support Iran, but this guy is now dead, so fuck him. Iran will continue their struggle against Israel, the US, and the west at large, which is good, but this guy is no hero and as he's smoldering he's not doing any favors anymore and only leaves a right wing legacy behind him. Best of luck to the next guy in the fight.

[โ€“] Dolores@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

honestly the pics shared in the news mega makes an accident seem pretty likely. they were flying through some soup, in a helicopter (wtyp)

[โ€“] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Eh I'll give this one to the fates, dying in a helicopter crash is like the least suspicious and most common way for a rich/important person to die suddenly. Even odds mossad rigged the helicopter to blow but then it crashed before the bomb could trigger lmfao

[โ€“] Finger@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

no more half measures walter

[โ€“] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

I'm sure this will lead to only good things

[โ€“] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

If only he listened to Brace

he gone

Death to America