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Democrats resubmit border shutdown bill (web.archive.org)

submitted 6 months ago by alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml to c/usa@lemmy.ml

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Among other changes to immigration law, the measure would make it more difficult to gain asylum in the United States and increase detentions and deportations of those crossing into the country without authorization. It would also effectively close the border altogether if the average number of migrants encountered by immigration officials exceeded a certain threshold — an average of 5,000 over the course of a week or 8,500 on any given day. The bill also would give the president power to close the border unilaterally if migrant encounters reach an average of 4,000 per day over a week.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I know a lot of loony leftists are saying things like "this is a violation of international law", and "Why are you passing Republican policies, do you want Trump to win", but they don't understand: if you triangulate yourself to be one iota to the left of Trump, every center-right moderate republican will vote democrat. And everyone left of them has to vote democrat anyway, so you'll win an overwhelming majority, Just like what happened in 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, and 2022!

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know a lot of loony leftists are saying things like "this is a violation of international law"

Shitlibs in a nutshell

Edit: Okay thank goodness you're being sarcastic.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world -5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not only that but they worked the GOP into a corner. Either they take up the deal and pass their golden border bill and it's no longer something they can screech about for the next 6 months or they do nothing, the bill dies again and the Dems can again prove that the Right doesn't actually want to fix anything

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know how I can make the sarcasm any more obvious.

This strategy lost Obama the house and senate, same with Biden in 2022. Turns out triangulation doesn't work. It just demotivates your base while your "moderate republicans" vote for fascism instead of diet-fascism.

The democrats can produce a river of foreign blood. Republicans will still win the right by promising to double it, and everyone who is horrified by the democrats actions will vote in lower numbers.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know how I can make the sarcasm any more obvious.

I mean you could have put the /s at the end. I'm not that good at detecting sarcasm in text.

But also... shitlibs will actually say stuff like this unironically.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OK, but they wouldn't cite years the dems got massacred in the house or senate in response to democrats trying to appeal to the mythical "moderate republican" instead of the base.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah they might, they'll just lie to you and/or themselves about the reality of how it happened. But fair point.