I hope reddit advertisers can see this. Why would you want to be associated with a site that discriminates against the blind?
this post was submitted on 01 Jul 2023
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they already lost 4.5bn because of this. Their valuation was cut down to 5.5bn from 10bn just the other day
And if I remember correctly that value cut was from before all this happened so it’s probably fixin to drop even more
Here's hoping. (yeah, I'm an unreasonable, hateful bitch. I despise what they did with the Apollo dev (and others) and I hope it bites them in the arse.)
I wish it lives. May we never forget Aaron's dream for the platform. May we never forget it. It's my goal in life to carry on in his and other's footsteps so we may use what we have made to help others.
I think if he was still around, he’d be all for ActivityPub and stuff like Lemmy/Kbin.
He definitely would have been all about ActivityPub, if not involved with bringing it about. Still amazes me that he was one of the inventors of RSS, arguably a proto-ActivityPub.
https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/30/fidelity-deepens-valuation-cut-for-reddit-and-discord/
Valued at 10 billion when fidelity bought an ownership stake in 2021.
Currently they estimate Reddit is worth 5.6 billion
Well done team, I bet the investor calls are going great!
How it started: what if we built a platform where people create and moderate the content, but we just make all the money?
How it's going:
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I get advocacy and I think this is a major point in the API changes, but the blind community deserves better than to just be ammo for this fight.
There have been reports of the traffic to their advertising portal dropping by about 20% over the past month
I'm actually surprised that metric would change much, because the users viewing ads aren't impacted by changes to the API or third party apps. So that's literally just 20% of people who either stopped using the site in solidarity or couldn't get to their content because of the protests.
It’s not out of solidarity, advertisers are worried they’ll turn into lightning rods: https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/
Things are getting worse. Some subreddits like /r/breastfeeding, which were private from the start, are now being forced by Reddit to make their subreddits public. It's completely stupid. r/breastfeeding NEEDS to stay private to keep creeps and weirdos away.
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman is discriminating against people with disabilities!
Someone needs to start a "campaign" for naming and shaming companies who advertises on Reddit. "[This company] supports a company that actively discriminates against the disabled. #SayNoToReddit"
honestly yes. While I do think "ableism" is sometimes took to a bit of an extreme, in this case it's good... and serves the good purpose of making Reddit even less money, which is a good purpose in and of itself!
I already cancelled my Dashlane, after they did an AMA on Reddit during the blackout. I don't support companies who cross picket lines.
u/Spez really didn't take the community seriously with the protests which has lead to this mass exodus. Crazy how they killed their platform so quickly with the writing on the wall in neon bright colors.
As someone with partial blindness, this is very pathetic of u/spez!
Wow, why am I surprised... They said they were going to keep accessibility for the blind, but it sucks so bad, it's useless.
Abelist fucks over there.
So dumb.
PS - It's quite awful reading reddit after being here. I uninstalled RES, and good lord reading the comment chains now is ghastly.
I read the thread and I kind of cringed inside. I understand the moderators of r/blind want to keep the resources & information accessible but they actually tried to negotiate and sort it out with Reddit according to their words and Reddit just didn’t give a fuck about them. What I would’ve done is just nuke the sub and move to Lemmy yet they continue to eat shit from u/spez
I feel for them.
r/Blind is still a valuable resource for many people. No sense denying people access to it. r/Blind mods already created a Lemmy instance which they try to promote for their members. But learning new software can be challenging when you can't see, especially if the software isn't very accessible.
That is a fair, I just hate to see the community abused like that and being held hostage by one VC schmuck who doesn't understand that he's basically killing his platform.
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It's not like Lemmy has great mod tools.
I've not looked for myself, but does Lemmy or Kbin have good, accessible tooling? They're both much more modern so I would expect that it would be a priority, but they're also much less mature so I wouldn't be surprised if little in that way has been implemented yet.
The frontend of Lemmy is an inferno app, which is a JS framework like react.
I noticed that command enter didn't submit comments, so I made both a userscript and then later opened a pull request fixing it. The pull request has already been merged, so should be coming to Lemmy soon.
Back 13 years ago, I built the compact interface to reddit. Now, I'm a much better developer than I was then, but Lemmy front end seems a hell of a lot more organized
they actually tried to negotiate and sort it out with Reddit according to their words and Reddit just didn’t give a fuck about them.
More than that, during his AMA, spez actually said he was actively working with them. Fucking liar!
I'm not up-to-date with the latest in accessibility, but does lemmy cater for those who need assistive tech? (just curious)
Just taking a shot in the dark, but I'm assuming if people were making the needed third party apps for Reddit before, they can repeat this task for Lemmy.
(Please correct me if I'm wrong though.)
You are absolutely correct. Lemmy's federated nature basically guarantees that free / affordable API access will always be available to app developers.
Thing about Lemmy is, since its federated, and fully opensource, even if it doesn't right now, adding an accessible interface is trivial. Be it through forks/pull requests, separate clients or frontends, or as a full-fledged federated peer focused on accessibility
Lemmy is open source and built by the community - the apps are all third party - with the exception of Jerboa, which is maintained by the same maintainers as Lemmy and lemmys default web interface.
So if the community want accessibility, they can do it themselves, submitting code to the maintainers for consideration or building their own interface based on the official and universal API that all interfaces use.
Essentially the official app is official only because of who maintains it - it has just as much privilege and the same access as the other apps and interfaces, and that's why the app is not called "The Lemmy App" but rather "Jerboa for Lemmy"
Thee official web interface is official and named "Lemmy-UI" not only because of the maintainers but also because it's bundled with the standard instance backend code - you set up a standard Lemmy instance package, it comes with "Lemmy-UI" as it's basic interface, alongside thus it also includes additional tools and access for instance admins to use to administer the instance while it's running. (Defederation and Federation settings, wether to enabled downvoted, 2FA and many other settings)
I never moderated a sub, but I am legally blind. Apollo had fantastic accessibility options while the official offering is garbage and makes using Reddit not only less enjoyable, but down right uncomfortable for some of us.
When the announcement came that Apollo was shutting down, I uninstalled and wiped my Reddit account. It's been over a month now.
My only issue is I haven't found an iOS app for kbin yet. So I'm basically just using the web version on PC.
There is a list of all the Lemmy apps here: https://lemmy.world/post/465785
It shows the current ones, announced apps, apps in development, etc. Across all platforms. Lots of devs have moved here from reddit, including Sync, Boost and Slide.
From what I've read from other users Wefwef is supposed to be very similar to Apollo, so you could try that one.
I hope you find what you're looking for!
Amazing! I appreciate that. Thank you.
This would be illegal in the EU if true, websites MUST be accessible to those with disabilities. There are no exceptions.
I'm not so sure about the "no exceptions"... I assume you're refering to the Web Accessibility Directive here. It specifically states this:
This directive does not apply to public service broadcasters or non-governmental organisations that do not provide services that are essential to the public or specifically to people with disabilities.
This is very much an exception, and a big one at that.
Since reddit does not provide services essential to the public, they are not required to comply with web accessibility standards.
I'm happy to be proven wrong here, but this is how i interpreted it and it would cause a lot of problems if the EU started going after private websites (which reddit still is, they are not a public sector, nor do they provide essential services to the public) and force them to be accessible.
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