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[–] realbaconator@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh wow a DJI with a packet sniffer attached to it, something I can literally put together myself with stuff at my desk in 15 minutes. Absolute baboons, these are the type of people to try and convince you 5G gives you Covid.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

To be fair, most of us don't have a packet sniffer and a drone on our desks... Can I have your job?

[–] WagesOf@artemis.camp 8 points 1 year ago

Now sell that to a right wing moron who somehow made millions on shitty pillows for $20k a pop.

Good money in dumbshit right wingers these days.

[–] Trashcanman@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

This dumbass thinks he has invented war driving

[–] ScornForSega@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

This dumb motherfucker has never heard of an Ethernet cable.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This dude didn't even have a decent fucking idea for a pillow.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno, obtaining scrap memory foam for cheap/nothing, shredding it, stuffing it in pillow cases, and reselling them isn't a BAD idea financially... not sure if they're any GOOD, but reselling garbage for money can't be a bad idea.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I honestly didn't know what his product was. I bought similar products on Amazon for dirt cheap and they're pretty comfy but they get way too hot for my liking. If someone could invent a pillow that stays cool all the time, that would be great.

Right now I'm using bamboo pillow cases and that's the closest I've come. I'm a very hot sleeper.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There are a few people who swear by them, but most reports are that they're shit pillows.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A single laser pointer will stop this.

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Literally the same link twice. 🤦🏻‍♂️

I live a couple of blocks from my MN polling place. I should take the day off from work to sit on my back porch, drink beer, and hunt pillow guy's drones with a laser pointer. Any tips?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Lindell, the My Pillow CEO who helped finance Donald Trump's baseless election protests, "demonstrated" the technology at an event he hosted in Missouri this week (see video).

Lindell said the gadget, which he calls a "WMD" for "Wireless Monitoring Device," detects nearby Wi-Fi networks and MAC addresses.

A Daily Beast article said Lindell's plan might violate Louisiana state laws on criminal trespassing and the use of unmanned aircraft to conduct surveillance.

It's not clear why a router connecting to the Internet would be evidence of election fraud, but Lindell provided that as an example multiple times.

The WMD will put that to the test by detecting and reporting in real time Wi-Fi connections in county and state election offices.

DePerno is facing criminal charges for an alleged attempt to illegally access and tamper with voting machines.


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[–] ForestOrca@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Unindicted Coconspirator.

[–] krayj@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

This is the stupidest shit I've seen all day, and I've seen some pretty stupid shit today.

Maybe I should start broadcasting a new SSID from one of my wireless access points named "super secret Dominion voting machine wireless internet router" to help out.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Detection of a WiFi signal does not mean you are detecting a specific machine's signal. Mike's drones will pick up the signals of every Wi-Fi hotspot in range. I seriously doubt these places are so isolated that the only signals around would be certain to belong to voting machines. Votes are often held in schools, libraries, city centers, etc. surrounded by hundreds of Wi-Fi signals. Didn't the Fulton County tabulation happen in State Farm Arena? Their website says that building has a capacity of over 15,000 people. It also says the building is equipped with Xfinity WiFi spots.

Even if you could confirm that an actual voting machine was connected to a Wi-Fi hotspot, that does not mean it has outbound or inbound Internet access. Even if you could tell that a voting machine was connected to a Wi-Fi signal with a route to the Internet, you would still have to have software on the machine that manipulated the data. If the concern is that some outsider is getting in, there would have to be open ports on the machines.

I wouldn't complain if our voting machines' software underwent static code analysis (it probably does, but I don't really know that) or if its source code was open. If these machines connect to a network, maybe some packet analysis is in order. But you're never going to snoop this traffic from a drone. This is the stupidest wardriving.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I watched a clip of this event, and he seemed to be coked out of his mind. I'm pretty sure this is his last play to save his finances and not go bankrupt after he tanked his stupid pillow business by marketing it as a conspiracy pillow.

It's hard to feel bad for a man like that but he is not exactly a picture of good health

[–] ArtyTester@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

In before he try’s to say there are thousands of missing votes because his drones saw more MAC addresses then votes counted. The logic will be “old people don’t carry phones so there should be EVEN MORE votes then devices!”

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He wants to fly drones near polling places see if whoever he is working with behind the scenes on it can hack them.

Remember Clint Curtis the Florida whistleblower in the 00s that came out publicly about being hired to hack voting machines?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBI33kOiKc

https://www.wired.com/2004/12/more-questions-for-florida/

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Clinton_%E2%80%9CClint%E2%80%9D_Curtis

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[–] daikiki@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does he seriously not know that he doesn't know what he's talking about?

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

To be fair, neither do the people he is courting.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Every new venture he comes up with brings me one step closer to an aneurysm...

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

You can't detect if a machine is on wifi when that machine does not have wifi.

Even if it did have wifi, what if I told you there are these things called local area networks, not connected to the internet?

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Pillow man needs to stick to pillows.

[–] moodinsk@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

TIL ssid’s are “internets”

[–] spider@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Mike Lindell's odd plan

All of his plans are odd.

[–] jerome@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This dude is looking for everyone's wifi hotspots? Why? For the funny names?

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Snake oil bullshit that this is, why the hell are voting machines a thing that exists?

Any electronic device that exists in a voting booth will always and forever be a tremendously Bad Idea.

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[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is the subposition posed by techie folks a long time. Like where I'm from it's still a paper ballot. But the idea that a paper ballot is that much safer because it's in paper form, but in the end it's the process and the framework around it that does the heavy lifting.

Voting machines can work... just not on an x86 running Windows enterprise lol abort, abort, the milk has soured, I repeat; the milk has soured...

But let's say a well designed RISC-V processor, no accelerators or things that make CPU go vroom vroom but that also introduces the threat of speculative execution and a solid, LTS Linux system with no WiFi, Bluetooth or anything, just a NFC or USB key pair that allows for anonymous voting, whilst also ensuring the integrity of the ballot using identifying measures like cameras in the voting locales and signing in at the entrance before voting.

Again, the process and the framework is the thing here. Even the hardware. Can the current industry handle it? Nope. Will open hardware and open firmware create a new revolution within the use and implementation of computers? I do believe so, and even within voting.

But some Oracle/Microsoft type job? No. Just no. There when you return to the paper ballot.

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you watch the video? Because he pretty much covered all that. Electronic voting will never, ever be viable for one simple reason: there is no added cost to scaling an attack on an election.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Which part of "not with the current hardware" didn't you understand? How did those hackers gain access?! WiFi and Bluetooth, as well as some enterprise system shellacked on top of it.

I respect Tom Scott, but that kind of absolutism isn't anything else than a dismissal. But yes, don't trust these IT companies. They are trash, their licenses are trash and their code is trash.

If that's the basis he's going off, he is right, but that doesn't dismiss the point I was trying to make - which completely escaped you.