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"Not really fair to nazis (cites BBOC)" jesus christ and that's still up while the person who said nazis/sympathizers should be shot has their comment removed. Scratched liberals show where their preference is in "both are bad" the second is the USSR is defended.

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 111 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're on my blocklist now smuglord

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago

you have been downvoted.copypasta

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 108 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I got into it with that dude and he ended up denying that the Irish famine was a genocide.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 88 points 1 year ago

Calls us genocide deniers, denies a genocide

It's always projection

[–] edge@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

Drought plus kulaks burning food out of spite, where more Russians died than Ukrainians? Genocide.

Blight of a single crop plus a continued net export of food, where only Irish died? Not a genocide.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the Irish famine

The one that the Irish still call "that time when the English stole all the food"?

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

thanks for narrowing it down. Now we know he's English. think-about-it

[–] Tastysnack@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did he now?!

cries in Derry

This is it everyone, turns out we weren't genocided because BBOC man says so 😞

Jokes aside I got banned from r/196 for calling a lot of them out on their Irish genocide denial and Liberal takes on the conditions that led to the formation of the IRA. Clown energy 🤡 that sub.

[–] Vncredleader@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

God sent the blight, but the English made the famine

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

when your modlog accidentally agrees that the lemm.ee user is a nazi

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

should we warn people that Lemm.ee is a Nazi instance?

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was browsing a thread this morning on the topic of Hexbear and a lot of them seems genuinely cool and have a pro-federate-with-hexbear stance. There's definitely some reactionaries over there, but there appear to be some cool folks as well.

EDIT: To add to this, I think we should absolutely target reactionaries anywhere (of course), but we SHOULD NOT let it turn into a war against other whole lemmy instances. There are cool people on most of these instances, and we should support them in their struggle to cleanse nazi filth from their own corner of the lemmyverse.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Fair enough

[–] build_a_bear_group@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would the Lenin and the USSR topple the Czar when he was just two days away from inventing an immortality serum that would have prevented every starvation, death of old age, and death against the Nazis. So the Soviet Union is responsible for all those deaths.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget, famines didn’t happen in Russia before the evil USSR took over.

[–] daisy@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

And there were no other famines in any other parts of the world when the holographymordor was happening. None at all.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wanting the workers to control the means of production is even worse than doing the holocaust! Why? Because a reactionary wrote a book full of lies. Checkmate. smuglord

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

that number is outdated they actually killed ~~100 gorillion~~ like a whole lot more

[–] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The numbers of deaths includes 'births that could possibly have happened'. So logically as every new generation would've been born, Stalin's kill count doubles, truly the death count of gommunism is literally infinity

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

I estimate that about 100 billion people should have been born within the last hour. Less than a billion have actually been born. I must conclude that capitalism kills at least 99 billion people an hour.

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gorilla erasure AND holocaust erasure smh

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lenin-sure nice Holocaust denial, nazi

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

That is severely understating the number of deaths nazis caused. I wonder why the user would do this.

Also, why would he use a source for communist deaths written by fascists, at least one of which was so fascist and disingenuous about his aims the project got disavowed by the other authors?

[–] boardbyboard@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

I don't like these new rules SHOW US THEIR USERNAME

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm more amused by the ones accusing us of being edgy teenagers

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Edginess is about caring about other people and wanting society to improve. The more you care and want society to improve, the edgier you are. no-copyright

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Improvement from being robots/bionicles/super sentai

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[–] Twink@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am 25 but people think I'm either freshly out of hs and some even think I'm under 15 (I don't live where my ethnicity is the default + it's mixed AFAIK [family adoptions]). That's how you age on communism. UwU

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't know which is funnier, this or the guy below him who said commies killed a full billion.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think one said about 600 million in total from china and the ussr, and a full billion from other socialist regimes iirc

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

hoxha-turt killing the whole world

[–] Marxine@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Hell, their vision of the USSR is so damn stronk I wonder if they're actually closet fans.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

100 million dead reactionaries.

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[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Treating morality as a math problem is so stupid. Did you know that Audie Murphy killed more people than the Golden State Killer, the Zodiac Killer, and the BTK Killer combined? Therefore he was mathematically more evil than all three of those serial killers combined I guess, reasons and the nature of the victims be damned.

Also these people never want to scale for time or number of participants: the Nazis were around for a measly ~12 years, while the USSR was around for ~69 years hentai-free, and Nazi Germany was one nation while "the communists" during the Cold War consisted of several nations.

Treating the Black Book numbers as though they're reliable (they aren't) for the sake of argument:

Nazis: 17 million divided across 12 years is ~1,416,666 per year average deaths, from one nation / political project.

The Communists: 100 million across 69 years is ~1,449,275 per year average deaths, from multiple nations / political projects.

The Nazis weren't going to stop themselves, they had to be stopped by the USSR. If they had lasted as long as the USSR, they would have comparable kill-counts to what the extremely unreliable Black Book of Communism attributes to the Communists. If you added in the kills from the other fascist nations (Imperial Japan in particular) instead of deliberately skewing the comparison by having all of communism throughout the Cold War against only the Nazis, then the fascists far outpace the communists, even by bullshit Black Book numbers.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also the nazi number is a low ball if you count missing civilians, there were something like 20 million missing Soviet citizens, presumed dead

[–] flan@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

even if you ignore missing civilians it's a lowball, the european theater of world war 2 was like 30-40 million deaths. I don't see any good reason 100% of those deaths shouldn't be billed to the nazis.

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[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Treating morality as a math problem is so stupid. Did you know that Audie Murphy killed more people than the Golden State Killer, the Zodiac Killer, and the BTK Killer combined? Therefore he was mathematically more evil than all three of those serial killers combined I guess, reasons and the nature of the victims be damned.

Excellent point

[–] MCU_H8ER2@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Say the line again Hexbear:

SCRATCH A LIBERAL

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And a "concerned citizen" bleeds

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They'll never beat our high score

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like someone is going to screencap this and use it as "proof" because they don't understand that you're being facetious.

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[–] Nightcastle@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

OK Borisbot, I saw this documentary called Red Dawn and saw how the evil pinko commies destroyed AMERICAN lives. I will not sit here and be forced to read the denigration of people of finance lives being lost or spit upon the name of Patrick Swayze.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago
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