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That’s a recent quote from Reddit’s VP of community, Laura Nestler. Here’s more of it: This week, Reddit has been telling protesting moderators that if they keep their communities private, the company will take action against them. Any actions could happen as soon as this afternoon.

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[–] trouser_mouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I completely understand Reddit wanting to be as profitable as possible, however it's the approach to the users, developers, and blatant lack of care, respect and transparency that got my back up - suspect a lot of people may be the same. Communities always move and change, no platform is too big to fail.

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All they had to do was allow Reddit premium users to access the site using third-party apps.

Yup. I was plenty happy to pay to keep using BaconReader. Give everyone a few months to set that up and I think things would've been fine. Instead, we get basically the most ham fisted way it could've gone.

[–] kwerks@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ohh interesting. Thinking about that, yah I would of signed up probably.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm with you. I get needing to make money, but needing to go public and become just another cringe social media platform is just sad. RIP Reddit. Hello Lemmy.

[–] roht@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not only this, but this has happened before. It was called Digg back in 2010.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was waiting it out until I heard mods were being threatened. That's the final call.

I'm going to be replacing posts with links to my never used socials because who cares if I'm spamming at this point.

[–] maple@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit can't run without its moderators and it can't monetize without data. I encourage everyone who's defected to Lemmy from Reddit to wipe their old Reddit account using Redact. I just wiped my old account of 15 years worth of comments and post history.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

As much as I would like to do this I have too many posts there have legitimately helped people who were struggling with things.

I've had people respond to months old posts thanking me on several occasions for helping them. I can't in good conscience remove thay just to spite reddit, and I do a lot of stuff out of spite.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ignore, duplicate 😣

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I wiped my 10 year old account last night. Everything except my last post telling spez to fuck off and that he and his board have no soul or humanity.

It was hard seeing it all go, but if life has taught me anything, it's that all things are impermanent and we should always be prepared to let go.

[–] Secret300@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I'll never understand the people who are hell bent on trying to get reddit back. No matter what they won't have a say in anything that happens, own anything, or even have a voice. I'm glad people are finally moving to an open source alternative.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Invested time... And this place is pretty far behind a usable replacement in terms of content alone.

[–] rckclmbr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was an early user of reddit, and it had a lot of the same problems this place had. There were no "smaller subreddits", everything was small. But the quality of content was good, so I stuck around. It really takes a lot of effort to build a community, it doesn't come for free. I hope you stick around and help 😀

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[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sadly, I don't think so. I think they looked at the number of new users and the number of users using 3rd party apps and decided they can lose those.

Edit: apparently Reddit has between 500 million and 1.6 billion active users monthly. According to RiF developers, RiF and Apollo have a combined 3 million active users. If all of those 3rd party app users decide to never go back, Reddit might lose between 0.6% and 0.2% of their userbase. I think they'll be fine...

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think the issue is that users will abandon, but that the site was only as usable as it was because of the mod tools that allowed the people who worked for free to moderate.

Now spam, hate, and all other such garbage will be a lot more common. One subreddit I subscribed to only had a single active mod and the only reason the sub was functional was the mod tools that now no longer work.

It may take some time, but people will leave when the subreddits are flooded with hate and spam.

[–] Spacebar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Reddit will die off in stages. Slowly.

First the power users are leaving now. These are the mods and the major content creators (think Minecraft leaving)

Eventually they will piss people off again and the more common content creators will leave.

Then after reddit has worse and worse content, the users who just comment will leave.

After that there will be nothing worthwhile for the lurkers and they will leave too.

Reddit will then be a wasteland.

This will all take quite a while. Even Digg took time to die off.

[–] ramblechat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the growth of Lemmy over the last few weeks is a clear indicator that Reddit is in decline. I have deleted Apollo and my reddit bookmark and have only gone back when a Google search provided the information I needed. I won't be going back and I think a lot of people are of the same mind.

[–] sriracha_no_big_deal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately for me, one of my favorite uses for reddit has been live game threads for various sports and that really only works with a larger user base. For instance, I follow the Seattle Mariners and I have found two different Lemmy instances for them. The one with the most subscribers (44) hasn't had a game thread posted in 13 days despite the Mariners having played like 10 games in that stretch. The other one has 9 subscribers, although it looks like someone has set up a bot to automatically post a game thread and a post-game thread; however, every single one I looked at has 0 comments.

I'm not gonna be able to pull the plug on reddit entirely until Lemmy gets a serious increase in users.

[–] headie_sage@fanaticus.social 1 points 1 year ago

Hi! I'm an admin of fanaticus.social. I'd like to apologize for the game bots disappearance. It's back now! I made pinned a post about it, which you can read here.

We're working hard to iron out the kinks in the game bots but I apologize for the inconvenience. I was on vacation last week and because of a bug, the choice was between keeping the fanaticus servers up or putting the bots to sleep.

The live game threads were some of my favorite parts of Reddit too. I can't do anything about the small user base but porting the game bots over to lemmy and posting content is the best way I could think of to start attracting users.

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I miss a lot of my favourite smaller subreddits too. There's way more now popping up then there was a few weeks ago so it is getting better. It'll take time for communities to grow, we can't expect it to be instantly like our fave subreddits were right off the bat. We have to remember that our niche subreddits started small as well at one point. Also consider doing some posting in those slow communities yourself to get the ball rolling. I've noticed it takes someone else commenting and providing content before other people feel brave enough to join in too. Kind of like no one wanting to be the first or only person on the dance floor. Once a couple people get in there and begin dancing others join too.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After being a Lemmy lurker for a few weeks, I submitted a request for an account on an instance that manually approves accounts earlier this week. Just checked and confirmed that my account was approved. This was based on calls for engagement to help grow the community. While I've been here for a bit, here's my first participation. Ayo!

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how their CEO believes - is absolutely convinced - that launching a crusade against his product's users and mods to be a winning strategy.

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[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

With so many of the power-users and mods abandoning ship, we'd better start a death pool for old.reddit.com, since it's mostly power-users that stay with old Reddit. How long until it gets Spez'd so desktop users have to suffer enshittification with the mobile app users?

[–] chunkmcbeefchest@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As soon as the threat was made all the mods should have quit. An unmoderated reddit would collapse in hours. It would have been glorious.

[–] Ace_of_spades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is true. I suspect for many mods the power they have to push their ideas, ideals and beliefs and punish who they see fit more than makes up or the fact that they do it for free.

[–] _kato@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man i really hope Reddit dies and people move onto decentralized networks, in time I'm sure we can figure out how to index a decentralized network for search engines completely replacing Reddit.

[–] nightscout@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If the content gets great enough, that will happen. Going to take time, but it will absolutely happen. Especially with so many people deleting their comments and Reddit having their feet held to the fire with people making complaints about them violating GDPR.

Lemmy, Mastodon, and the entire Fediverse are really what the internet was supposed to be. I am glad to see the pendulum swinging back and I hope it continues. I am mostly really excited about the mobile apps being developed for Lemmy. Those are coming along at lightening speed and I those will be THE THING that makes Lemmy happen.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You can use Lemmy Explorer to search through all 900 or so Instances for the communities you're interested in.

[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's easy to index decentralized networks is literally Google. Every website is decentralized from every other website the fact that Lemmy/kbin/Masterson sites can communicate with each of the doesn't really make any difference.

[–] laxe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I wonder if search engines will see content duplicated across multiple instances and derank them thinking it’s SEO spam. Or maybe I’m overthinking since google is already full of SEO spam.

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